Last week:
12.28% conversion average on squeeze page (highest performing page in split test was 28%)
£1.92 per email
13 emails
1 sale @ £10
Email stats
Email 1 open rate: 38.9%
Email 2 open rate: 66.7%
New split tests and dynamic creative on FB have given me subscribers at £0.91 each, which is pretty good. The figure above (£1.92/email) is an average for the week, which includes my previous lower performing ads.
After setting everything going on Friday, I was getting subscribers at under £0.50, so I doubled the budget that day, and the ad then tanked. I watched the video in the Inner Circle on how to scale ads properly, reset the budget of the ad to it's original £2.50/day, and it seems to be performing again.
I'm leaving the ad alone for a couple of days to let the algorithm do its thing, and set up a new split test on the landing page with variations on the text.
I've setup retargeting on people that didn't opt in (the ad has been in review for 2 days :@ )
I made 1 sale last week. Not a game changer, but it is encouraging to see this!!
Now that (I think) I have the early stage of the funnel working, next I'm going to start digging into the info on the open and click through rates on that first email.
I'm not sure how I properly split test the open rate of an email.
A couple of questions I have:
1. How would you recommend I go about testing the subject line of an email?
2. How can I see the stats on click rates of an email?
3. Is it possible to AB test emails in a campaign?
Thanks again for making the course John, and taking the time to answer questions here,
Sam
Sam Russell said
Last week:12.28% conversion average on squeeze page (highest performing page in split test was 28%)
£1.92 per email
13 emails
1 sale @ £10
Email stats
Email 1 open rate: 38.9%
Email 2 open rate: 66.7%
the 12.28% conversion rate is obviously too low. But the 28% conversion rate is really good
£1.92 is still too high, but not terrible.
13 emails is far too low to really know anything. one sale out of 13 makes it a nearly 8% conversion rate, which is excellent. But that number will likely change a lot as you get more statistical significance. While you are currently operating at a loss. If you cut your subscriber costs in half (which you should be able to do by simply turning that 12% conversion rate into a stable 28% conversion rate), and add the odd upsell into the mix, you should be profitable. But again, much will change. At least the fundamentals are working.
Those email open rates are odd. You're saying the download email is only getting a 38% open rate, and yet the first blog post is getting a 66$ open rate? They are usually more the other way around. That would also be an exceptionally low open rate for the download delivery email.
New split tests and dynamic creative on FB have given me subscribers at £0.91 each, which is pretty good. The figure above (£1.92/email) is an average for the week, which includes my previous lower performing ads.
That's great!
After setting everything going on Friday, I was getting subscribers at under £0.50, so I doubled the budget that day, and the ad then tanked. I watched the video in the Inner Circle on how to scale ads properly, reset the budget of the ad to it's original £2.50/day, and it seems to be performing again.
Also great and very encouraging.
I'm leaving the ad alone for a couple of days to let the algorithm do its thing, and set up a new split test on the landing page with variations on the text.
I've setup retargeting on people that didn't opt in (the ad has been in review for 2 days :@ )
That's odd. I have never experienced that. If it doesn't get approved soon, something is wrong. Make sure you are looking at your ads from a desktop. Mobil ad manager does not display everything, including warning and error messages (on occasion).
I made 1 sale last week. Not a game changer, but it is encouraging to see this!!
Absolutely!
Now that (I think) I have the early stage of the funnel working, next I'm going to start digging into the info on the open and click through rates on that first email.
I'm not sure how I properly split test the open rate of an email.
The only thing you can really do is note the open rates. Then delete the email and add a new one, and run that for approximately the same amount of people and note that open rate. Go with the winner.
If the free download email is that low, you might consider turning on the confirmed opt in setting.
A couple of questions I have:
1. How would you recommend I go about testing the subject line of an email?
If it's in the follow up series, I would do so as outlined above.
2. How can I see the stats on click rates of an email?
In the legacy follow up series the clicks can be tracked by going to reports and then clicking on "Follow Up Percentages".
If you are using campaigns you just open the campaign and then click on the white space next to the campaign name. That opens up a stats window and you can see opens and clicks.
3. Is it possible to AB test emails in a campaign?
In a follow up series you would need to do it like I outlined above. In an email broadcast you can normally do it, but Aweber has taken that feature offline recently while they work on it. But it's coming back shortly and I am on the beta list and will be testing it for them. It's supposed to happen soon.
Thanks again for making the course John, and taking the time to answer questions here,
Sam
My pleasure Sam. Thanks for being part of MMM.
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I don't know where I got those open rate numbers from. Here is a screenshot of open rates across my email series, it says I'm getting 73.3% open rate on the first email:
The last two emails have a low open rate because they have not been sent to too many people (yet). This time next week I should have more data for the last two emails.
The first four (to my eyes), look ok. Is that a correct assessment?
Click rates on emails are as follows:
Again, the last two emails haven't been sent very much, but the click rates on emails 2, 3 and 4 look a little bit low... what should I be aiming for here?
Yeah, those first four are not bad. Would love to see the first one get up over 80%, but it's not bad where it is and anything over 50% is good on the main blog emails. The click through rates are a little low. I'd like them to be at around 1/3rd of the open rate or higher. Sometimes that is hard but it's worth looking at those emails and seeing if you might be able to improve the CTR.
One way to do that is by using three links in each email, and using a different psychological trigger on each one. For example, curiosity, benefit, and scarcity. But you can use other triggers as well. The idea being that if one trigger doesn't have an impact in your subscriber's mind, another might. This is not something present in all of the MMM template emails. It's not required, but it can be a way to help with those CTRs.
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Awesome, thanks John!!
I rewrote the emails and subject lines.
The first email, I put the blog post in the email itself and used a far more dramatic story with links to the record.
The second, is some sort text to bait the reader to clicking through to the full blog post.
I'll let the emails run for a few days and see how the number fall out.
Sounds good Sam. Cheers.
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Results from the last week:
Sales: £27.50. Sold the signed version of my CD 😀
Emails: 34 @£0.90 each (on average). 58 in total.
Conversion on landing page: 30.49%
Ad Spend: £30.52
List conversion: 2.94%
Was pretty happy making the sale yesterday. Felt good that someone would pay an extra £5 to have me sign my CD!
The new blog posts have completely tanked compared to the old ones. I'm going to leave them for two more days, collect some more data, then change them again.
My ad spend is currently £4.38 per day, optimised for conversions. The last two days it has been getting emails for £0.45... which is awesome.
I'm currently not using an upsell or funnel support ads - trying to get the basic funnel to be profitable without them.
That's pretty good Sam. The sales conversion rate is low, but the fact that you are almost breaking even is really encouraging. You really should get the upsell up as soon as possible. Even if things ddn't improve, you would be profitable with an upsell.
Great start.
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Thanks John, I'll get that in there this week, along with the new blog emails.
I'm confident that when I get the blog emails and LTO working, this is going to work very nicely!
No doubt. \m/
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results from last week:
41 new emails @£0.81 each
1 sale @ £21
Conversion on landing page: 22% (which is weird as I'm running the page last week that was hitting 30% against another variation... both variations are now running at 22% ish.. :S ). I seem to be reliably making 1 sale a week, which is a good start.
Got a new blog post and email for the blog post up, but the click rates are not going so good:
Blog 1 has 23% open rate, and from the people that open it, 33% click onto the blog post.
I didn't get the upsell in place, it's on my list for this week.
Going to start the 10 minute Twitter strategy each day this week, ramp the results up a bit with some free traffic.
List is close to 100 people now.
Sam Russell said
results from last week:41 new emails @£0.81 each
1 sale @ £21
Conversion on landing page: 22% (which is weird as I'm running the page last week that was hitting 30% against another variation... both variations are now running at 22% ish.. :S ). I seem to be reliably making 1 sale a week, which is a good start.
Absolutely. Those are great numbers and t's definitely a great start. 22% is not terrible but the drop is a bit odd, unless you just hadn't had enough info yet. Numbers will fluctuate until they get up there.
Got a new blog post and email for the blog post up, but the click rates are not going so good:
Blog 1 has 23% open rate, and from the people that open it, 33% click onto the blog post.
Those are really weird numbers. 23% on email 2 is quite low, especially for a funnel that sounds like it's doing pretty ok in terms of most of the other stats. And a CTR that is higher than the open rate is really bizarre. I've never seen that.
How many people have been sent that email? sounds anomalous, as though the numbers are just too low yet.
What is the subject line?
I didn't get the upsell in place, it's on my list for this week.
Sounds good That will make a big difference to your bottom line.
Going to start the 10 minute Twitter strategy each day this week, ramp the results up a bit with some free traffic.
List is close to 100 people now.
Sounds good. Nice to see you making progress.
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The big drop in conversion on the landing page is confusing and frustrating... I don't understand it. Each variation has had 40-60 people on it so far.
Blog 1: 19 sent, 5 unique opens (26%), 2 clicks Subject: [Sam Russell] Playing guitar with Steve Vai
Blog 2: 58 sent, 13 unique opens (22%), 0 clicks Subject: FNAME, have you ever been in the presence of a goddess?
Blog 2 has more sent because I replaced Blog 1 last week. I'm playing with the subject lines and emails over the next week or so, to boost those numbers.
Started a new round of dynamic creative ads yesterday too.
Hmmm, those aren't big enough numbers yet, in my opinion. I'd be starting to form an opinion on the landing page after 100 - 200 visitors, and not enough people have been emailed about the blog post. Especially the first one. That said, it's not a great start.
What is your open rate on the download delivery email?
If the trend continues, you might try turning the opt in on. It may be that you are getting an abnormally high percentage of fake email addresses from people that are curious about what is on the other side. It happens with some genres. Turning the opt in on should drive your opens up, but will possibly drive your opt ins down a bit. But if you can stomach it, I would let things run a bit longer before deciding too much.
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Aah, I went and changed a few things after reading your post this morning. I'll let everything run for a week - I need to work on my patience.
Open rate on the download delivery email is 63%. Subject line: {!firstname_fix}, here's Your download link...
I looked at the upsell. I've been using WC as the store / product handling on my website, which seems to work well so far, but, adding upsells to it is tricky. There are a few cool options for things like one click upsells, having a lightbox pop-up bump offer, but they all require spending more money on the software... and I'm inclined to get the funnel breaking even before I try that. I may have tried to run before I can walk with this!
thanks again John
Ok, yeah, that open rate on the first email is pretty low (though not unheard of when not using confirmed opt in). I suspect quite a few bad emails are getting entered. You might try turning confirmed opt in on and see what happens.
You're referring to Woo commerce? Can I get a link to the store page? Funny enough I got an email from a IC member 5 mins ago about a Woo commerce conflict (just a design thing). But if it;s working for you then it may not be the theme.
In terms of Woo commerce, I would just keep things simple. You want to make sure it's not an overly complex shopping cart set up with as few things to click/enter as possible. Who are you suing for processing?
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Ok thank John, I'll give confirmed opt-in a go.
Yes WooCommerce. This is the store page:
https://www.samrussell.co.uk/shop/
and this is CD sales page:
https://www.samrussell.co.uk/r.....-desire-2/
The CD sales page goes through to an order form - which isn't very streamlined and is probably hurting my sales a bit. I'm working out how to fix that (have a few ideas but have a little tech stuff to tinker with).
For processing, I'm using Stripe and PayPal, customers can choose which they want at checkout
Ah, I see. Looks like you are not using Woocmmerce on the MMM theme. That was what I was looking for. All good though. Thanks.
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35 emails @£0.92 per email (plus a bunch more from free traffic)
No sales
Going to change the blog email subject lines, both emails were hitting an open rate of roughly 22% this week, pretty low
Got my first 'continuity' blog post up and broadcast sent. I'm aiming for a blog post every week, and a promotion once every 2 months.
This week:
Hmmm, those open rates are just weirdly low. You might also try calling Aweber and see if they can spot anything. They can be really helpful.
Let us know how the changes go.
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