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Squeeze page critique
April 2, 2019
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Hello everyone 

I've been testing my target audience and images on Facebook and got some very good info to analyze. My last test did pretty well which I'm happy about, but my squeeze page is converting very poorly at around 2 percent. I've watched all the Insider Circle lessons that have to do with getting your page converting better, but would love some fresh eyes to give me some feedback.

I'm targeting fans of '70s progressive rock bands such as Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes and Genesis. 

Men ages 35 to 65+ 

U.S+Canada and trying some European campaigns (had some luck in Portugal, Poland, France, Spain and Italy)

Here is a link to my page

http://www.gadicaplanmusic.com.....ree-music/

Please be brutally honest 🙂

Thanks!

Gadi

April 5, 2019
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Hey Gadi,

There are a lot of variables at play here so it's hard to diagnose from just a quick look. 

But I'll start with a few questions... Have you broken your countries up into unique ad sets or are you grouping them all into one?

What is the relevancy score on your best ad, and can you provide a screen shot of that ad?

I can see a few superficial things such as the headline colour is basic red and doesn't match the arrow. I would go with #cc000.

The quotes are not quote aligned with the image causing the supportive text to wrap, which is not ideal. 

In the image you are looking away which is not ideal.

And the headline copy needs work. I know what you are trying to say, but currently I think it reads clumsy.

You are missing two of the recommended supporting paragraphs.

Can I ask where you are from? I gather by your targeting that you are perhaps not in the US, and I wondered if perhaps English was your second language?

How many visitors have you had on the squeeze page so far?

Let me know all of the above and I'll be able to better assess.

Cheers.

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April 8, 2019
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Hi John

Thanks for the feedback!
 
I've done four campaigns, in the first two I definitely grouped too many countries together. The third one targeted Italy, Portugal, Poland, France, Israel and the UK. The leading ad had a CTR of 3.7% and a relevance score of 6.
 
In the fourth campaign I used the same leading ad (only one ad, not split testing) and targeted US+Canada.  CTR was 7% and relevance score was 9. In both cases the same squeeze converted at around 2%. I reset the stats on Aweber between campaigns so I don't remember the exact number of visitors on the previous campaign, but it was a couple of hundred give or take. The most recent campaign got 97 people to the squeeze page.
 
Can you send me a screen shot of my squeeze page? It looks aligned to me...maybe its displaying differently on different devices for some reason?
 
I had three paragraphs on previous squeeze page, but felt that maybe combining two of them and adding a sub headline to push the point across might work better. I've attached a screenshot of the previous squeeze page (I realized later that I don't mention progressive rock in the headline...) I also experimented with a different headline: 
 
“DIVE INTO A MIXTURE OF PROGRESSIVE ROCK, FUSION AND WORLD MUSIC, AND GET YOURSELF A FREE DOWNLOAD FROM ONE OF THE MOST REFRESHING AND INNOVATING PROG ROCK MUSICIANS IN A VERY LONG WHILE.”
 
I'm located in Israel, but grew up speaking English and Hebrew and lived in the US for 10 years. That being said, almost all the copy on the squeeze page (including the headline) is taken directly from reviews about my third album which were published on English speaking magazines and websites.
 
I've attached a screen shot of my leading ad as well
 
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April 8, 2019
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Hi John

Thanks for the feedback!
 
I've done four campaigns, in the first two I definitely grouped too many countries together. The third one targeted Italy, Portugal, Poland, France, Israel and the UK. The leading ad had a CTR of 3.7% and a relevance score of 6.
 
Ah, yes... This is too diverse for a single ad. Because many of those countries represent very different markets, cultures, and even languages, you definitely want to separate those out into their own campaigns. I literally see every single one of those countries as it's own market, and thus, each one should have it's own campaign. The relevancy score is on the low side and indicative of the fact that your ad is not targeted enough, which would be hard to to with such a diverse audience.
 
 
In the fourth campaign I used the same leading ad (only one ad, not split testing) and targeted US+Canada.  CTR was 7% and relevance score was 9. In both cases the same squeeze converted at around 2%. I reset the stats on Aweber between campaigns so I don't remember the exact number of visitors on the previous campaign, but it was a couple of hundred give or take. The most recent campaign got 97 people to the squeeze page.
 
That's a bit odd to have such a good relevancy score and such a terrible squeeze page conversion rate. I rarely see anything as low as 2%. Can you post a screenshot of your ad on the campaign with the relevancy score of 9?
 
 
Can you send me a screen shot of my squeeze page? It looks aligned to me...maybe its displaying differently on different devices for some reason?
 
Sure. Here you go. You can see the issues I talked about. the text wrap is not a major issue at all. But each little thing adds up. You can also see the lighter colour in the squeeze page headline as compared to the arrow and download button. ictemp.pngImage Enlarger
 
 
I had three paragraphs on previous squeeze page, but felt that maybe combining two of them and adding a sub headline to push the point across might work better. I've attached a screenshot of the previous squeeze page (I realized later that I don't mention progressive rock in the headline...) I also experimented with a different headline: 
 
I don't see an attachment. I would recommend sticking with my 4 paragraph structure for now.
 
“DIVE INTO A MIXTURE OF PROGRESSIVE ROCK, FUSION AND WORLD MUSIC, AND GET YOURSELF A FREE DOWNLOAD FROM ONE OF THE MOST REFRESHING AND INNOVATING PROG ROCK MUSICIANS IN A VERY LONG WHILE.”
 
For me, this headline doesn't do enough to really connect with the pre-existing passions and interests that exist in my mind. While it does say progressive rock, fusion and world music, it doesn't SHOW me that you understand what I love about those styles. I also feel that they are so diverse as to leave me confused about what the music might even sound like.
 
For example, If you were a Guns N roses esque rock band, I would want you to just say "late 80s hard rock". I'd want you to say something more like "possesses the trashy guitar sounds and unapologetic lyrics that are everything you loved about the rock bands of the late 80s"... Make sense?
 
 
 I'm located in Israel, but grew up speaking English and Hebrew and lived in the US for 10 years. That being said, almost all the copy on the squeeze page (including the headline) is taken directly from reviews about my third album which were published on English speaking magazines and websites. 
I've attached a screen shot of my leading ad as well
Thanks!
Gadi  

Ok, cool. Long story short... I thinl the copy still needs work. I might be able to offer more insight when I see the ad that got the relevancy score of 9.

Cheers.

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April 10, 2019
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Thanks John

I'm experimenting with a few headline using the formulas you suggested in the squeeze page headline bootcamp.

I uploaded two attachments on the previous message, trying again... 

The squeeze page displays perfectly on my end what can be causing it to display differently on other devices?

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That's odd. I haven't seen any browser conflicts. Can you upload a screenshot of the screenshot so I can see how it;s displaying for you? And let me know which browser and version you have.

I still personally feel that the headline and ad copy could use work. However, the 7% CTR you are getting on the ad is hard to disregard, because it's very good. As is your relevancy score.

Have you run a breakdown to see what countries are giving you the cheapest clicks, and the most subscribers? That should help point you in the right direction.

If I was to personally try and turn this around I would start by smoothing out the ad copy and the squeeze page (without changing it too much since the ad is working well for you so far. I would then pick one English speaking country. Perhaps the UK (I think the multi targeting has also been a huge problem). I would also fix up the squeeze page visually by changing the headline colour and adjusting the formatting as mentioned, and I would flush out the supporting paragraphs as recommended in the course. Then I would turn on the traffic and see where I landed.

Good luck.

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Here is a screen shot of the squeeze page.

Italy, Poland, France and Portugal have been getting cheeper clicks and bringing in more subscribers. 

For some reason I'm not managing to get into the costume color section so I can change the headline color, I'll check with Wordpress support what's the deal.

 

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That's odd that it is displaying differently for you. What browser are you using?

If those countries are getting you cheaper subscribers then there is nothing wrong with sticking with them. It would surprise me though if that held up.

You do often see cheaper clicks on countries like those, but this is because those markets don't usually convert as well, or produce as many sales, which is why they are cheaper. But all that matters is the results you get.

In terms of changing the color of the headline, that is done in the theme customizer, under typography. Try the squeeze page headline setting. If that doesn't work, try the h1 setting. Wordpress support would not be able to help with something like that.

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Managed to fix the headline color. 

I'm using Safari as my browser, but after reading your last message I had a look on Chrome and it displays in the same way your seeing it on your end. What can be causing this?

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Ok great. I'm honestly not sure what might be causing it. Browsers can display things pretty differently Fortunately, few people will be accessing your page from Safari Desktop. Still, everything counts. All you can do is play with the line spacing and font sizes until it displays the way you want it to.

Here is a tool I use to see how a site displays on other browsers: http://browsershots.org/

But keep in mind, that shows you a TON of browsers, including very old and obscure ones. No matter how perfect your site is, it will display weird o some browsers. You really need only pay attention to the main ones.

With that in mind, is your browser up to date?

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Excellent tool!

My browser is up to date. 

Thanks John!!

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Hi John how's everything? 

I've been tweaking my squeeze page and got it to perform slightly better (up to 5% from 1.5%....) but still have a lot of work to do. 

I had a question about targeting, you mentioned in one lesson that Facebook's algorithm won't necessarily display our ads only to people who liked a certain band, but that mention the name in various contexts that might not apply to music at all.

Three of the bands I was planing on targeting are Yes, Camel and Genesis (three of the biggest prog bands so hopefully their audiences area good targeting choice for me). Are these targeting options bound for failure because someone who sees my ad might be literally talking about camels, the book of Genesis or just using the word yes? 

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It is possible. Usually you will see a "Camel Band" option. But if you don't, then yes, that could be an issue. But if when you select the option and then click on suggestions, the suggestions will be a clue as to whether or not you are targeting the band or something related to the more general term.

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Hi John

I've been doing some more testing on my ads and editing my squeeze page. I went back and worked on my USP, merch table exercise, coffee shop exercise etc...  I think the elements of what I'm trying to convey to my audience, and the audience's pre existing interests are better expressed on my latest squeeze page. Still, the page is converting only at 8-10 percent. 

My ads are doing very well so my cost per subscriber isn't horrible (around 1.7$ on my best campaign)

Also, one thing I haven't tried is adding a bit of text (to the first squeeze page paragraph) about my latest album being featured on a few websites/radio stations top 10 albums of 2016. One site even chose it as album of the year. I'm not sure how to approach this because on the one hand it sounds like a strong talking point, on the other hand these are small websites and radio stations that most people haven't heard of so I'm afraid it will come off as "small time"...

Any thoughts and suggestions?

Here is the link to my squeeze page http://www.gadicaplanmusic.com.....ree-music/

Thanks!!

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Hi Gadi,

Steve here.  John is going to be in and out sporadically over the next few days, so I wanted to jump in and try to help.

So it sounds like your costs are manageable and that your ad is performing okay.  Usually when you see lower conversions on the squeeze page, the first place you want to look is the headline, to see if there's a disconnect with the audience from the ad copy, up to the squeeze page headline.  We'd need to be able to see both the ad copy and the squeeze page to make a determination.

Another issue might be that the offer isn't compelling enough (only offering one song, as opposed to two or three).

Another issue could be that there isn't a strong call to action, meaning that people just might not know how to proceed, so make sure you are telling them exactly what to do.

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Hi Steve

I am in the process of testing headlines. I've already tested several pictures and have the leading oneLeading-headline.pngImage Enlarger2nd-headline.pngImage Enlarger on my squeeze page. I also have the leading headline on the squeeze page and elements from the second best preforming headline on the sub headline of the squeeze page. 

Tweaking the headline and changing the offer to two track instead of one as you mentioned are things I've done and they did get the page to convert better, so did the edits I did to the supporting text.

Anymore ideas? what about what I wrote in the last message? copying it here... one thing I haven’t tried is adding a bit of text (to the first squeeze page paragraph) about my latest album being featured on a few websites/radio stations top 10 albums of 2016. One site even chose it as album of the year. I’m not sure how to approach this because on the one hand it sounds like a strong talking point, on the other hand these are small websites and radio stations that most people haven’t heard of so I’m afraid it will come off as “small time”…

 

I've attache screen shots of the leading ads I've been running.

Thanks!!

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Hi Gadi,

Steve here.  Sorry for not responding to that part of your previous question.

 

Yeah, you know...  we don't have any data that would say whether or not that would be effective, but given that it does serve as social proof, I'd say that you should definitely test that, as it may be the very thing that helps people overcome their resistance to filling out the form.  I wouldn't worry about what people consider to be "small time".  You never know until you test.

Give it a shot and see if it makes a difference.

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Hi Gadi,

My apologies for not responding sooner. My daughter was born last week and I've been away from the desk enjoying just being a dad for a while. Getting back to the desk now though.

All of the the things that Steve mentioned could be factors, but it may also be targeting, or a combo of the message and the targeting. Who is your target audience and which ad of those you posted performed best?

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Wow congratulations John!!!! that's fantastic news!!! Really no need to apologies...

My leading ad is the one with "remember the days when you put on a album..." in the headline (also my squeeze page headline) and the close second place is the one with "put on your headphones"... (which I use elements of in the sub headline on the squeeze page)

I'm targeting fans of s70 progressive rock bands and so far Pink Floyd and Steve Hackett are the best performers. Targeting UK 35 to 65+ men only.

I do want to test the same ad and squeeze page on other countries for comparison and I also want to test adding some text about best album of the year 2016 which I mention on the previous message. Not sure how to word it and if it will come of in the readers mind as "wow album of the year! I need to check that out!" or "never heard of that radio station/magazine in my life, not interested..."

In the mean time I've been trying out the 10 minute twitter and instagram strategies. Haven't got a huge amount of traffic, but the page is converting at 34%! That's very interesting to me.... might be that the UK fans are harder to target... I do remember someone you interviewed on a podcast mentioning that at some point.

Thanks and congrats again!!

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