The next lesson here in the IC will be a bit of a call back to a previous lesson called the "Website Report Card" in which I let you watch over my shoulder as I critiqued the landing pages of various Insider Circle members. However, in THIS month's lesson we'll be taking a look at actual Facebook Ad campaigns.
It's not uncommon that I'll hear from a member who is trying their hardest, but for whatever reason, they just can't make an ad campaign work. However in most cases, when I am able to login to a user's account, it doesn't take long to spot the problem.
And so I thought it might be fun to offer IC members a chance to have their troubled Facebook ad campaigns laid out on the operating table, for all to learn from. All you need to do is add me as an "analyst" in your Ad Manager and post something below explaining the issue you have been having. Be sure to also post the account name (if it's different from your username here in the forum), and the name of the campaign in question. And not to worry, by selecting "analyst" in the permission settings I will only have the ability to review your ads and reports. I won't be able to create ads or view any sensitive billing information, nor will I have any access to your Facebook profile.
Here's how you add me:
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You can give people access to your advertising account from your ad account settings in your Ads Manager:
Note: Adding people to your advertising account doesn't give them permission to log in as you or see things on your profile or Timeline that you haven't shared with them.
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Obviously I won't be able to do this for every member in the IC. But my goal will be to look for two or three good examples of common problems and see if I can't spot a few issues that will not only help the account holder, but also act as a good lesson to all. Please don't be offended if your account is not chosen for this month's lesson. It's simply going to be a matter of fitting in as many campaigns as possible within the time span of a normal lesson.
So that's about it... If you'd like me to potentially take a look at your campaign please follow the steps above and post a brief summary of the issues you've been having with the campaign. I'll select a few of the best examples and record a screen capture video as I diagnose the problem and offer up a few possible suggestions of how you might be able to turn your campaign around.
I'll be recording this within the next few days so be sure to submit your campaign as soon as possible.
This should be a fun one!
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So I just added you is there anything else I need to do? seems so easy....
Josiah
PS - Thanx for the help!
Hey John,
what an awesome month's lesson, thank you! The campaign in question is Brian Rogers Aug 2015, and the ad set is Bass Magazine Newsfeed. My problem is that I entered the conversion pixel -BR Freetrack- onto my squeeze page as opposed to my thank you page. As you can see there's tons of conversions in there that I wish were legit! A mistake I fixed already, but maybe some else can benefit from seeing this.
As far as results: CTR holding at 3.63, so the ad is still doing alright, but after letting my last ad run for 2 more days I ended up with 18 subscribers out of 239 visitors to make a 7.5 percent CR at $4.77 per subscriber. The most honest stats I've ever gotten. I thought I was home free at first with 7 subscribers out of 25 visitors in the fist couple hrs, and I was paying 1 dollar per subscriber at that point. But the next 11 subscribers came over the next 2 days at a very slow rate and my prices spiked. After this maybe have another Squeeze page report card lesson haha ?
Learning a lot. Still missing the mark for my squeeze page. Or, maybe I'll switch up my ad targeting soon to some renowned bass players instead of the bass musician magazine audience and keep the squeeze page the same. Just to be thorough, here my latest squeeze page: http://www.brianrogersmusic.co...../freetrack (got rid of the video for now).
Thank you! -Brian
Hey John who's it going,
I just added you to my account. I've been having a very hard time in getting conversions to my adds, to be honest I haven't converted any of these fans into actual clients. After running a bunch of ads and wasting hundreds of dollars on FB ads I'm starting to lose motivation and I was wondering if you could take a look and maybe give me a new direction.
Right now I have all my campaigns on stop, cause I'm just not getting the feel for this.
Thanks
Fernando
account name: Ferlo Music
website: http://www.ferlomusic.com
Hi John - I have added you as analyst
My latest campaign 11/8/15 was an improvement (!)
Stats:
132 clicks/ clicktr range 0.1- 0.18/ 9 conversions
$10.22 per conversion!!!
Last two campaigns:
13/7/15 117 clicks/ ctr 0.13/ 3 conversions= $24.15 per conversion
7/7/15 57 clicks / ctr 0.14/ 2 conversions = $23.91 per conversion
Despite this $10.22 per conversion will not help me meet my goals. How do I improve this further?
thanks for the support /Hal
(badgertrapmusic.com)
Cool beans...this is awesome and super helpful. I added you as an Ad account manager and my facebook page is:
http://www.facebook.com/toddomusic
that facebook ad leads to landing page: http://www.toddosongs.com
My challenge is that my facebook ad sends people to the website but people aren't putting their emails in to get the free tracks and be on my subscriber list.
Big thanks John,
Todd
Thanks, John- I've just added you as an analyst. The campaign is 'Squeeze Page Conversions- Tracks'.
Speak soon.
Victor.
Thanks everyone. I'll be getting to this shortly. Hang tight.
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Just wanted to let everyone know the lesson is up. You can find it here.
I wasn't able to review everyone's campaigns because of time constraints, but I think we looked at a good cross section of campaigns so there should be a lot of value there for everyone.
Big thanks to all of you who were willing to share your campaigns with the IC, and I hope you all enjoy the lesson.
PS - I have removed myself from everyone's accounts and no longer have access to what was granted. Thanks again.
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Hi John,
Thanks for all the good tips.
I'm going to change things around and I'll let you know how things are working out.
Once again thanks a lot.
Fernando
I think it is good to get critical like this . For one you start to see things that perhaps you're a bit blinkered to - because it is hard to stand back and be objective when you're in the middle of it . Also there are some little technical things about facebook ads manger that I picked up even though I have done the facebook ads workshop also - perhaps info/detail fatigue like John said.
At least with the ads stuff you can start afresh . It felt like going back to school just to get this far but lessons like this help me understand that I can take action into my own hands. So thanks for making it - and look forward to more! i'll let you know how I get on. /Hal
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the feedback. Glad you enjoyed the lesson.
Hal, yours was a challenging one because I like a lot of what you are doing. I keep thinking about the orange image and how it's really quirky and should do very well. I think it's just a matter of simplifying. I'd start by taking that image and putting it both in the ad and on the squeeze page. Make the copy less clever and more straight forward, and try getting in front of a little less obscure audience. But there are no guarantees. That said. I'm sure there is a combo out there that will work for you (for all of your). You just need to dial it in.
Thanks again for offering up your campaigns for some scrutiny.
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Hey John,
Thanks so much for doing this lesson. It's always really helpful when real sites from IC or MMM or MAW members are reviewed and critiqued. Absolutely no worries at all that my site was not reviewed, I thought all the ones you picked were great. And yes, we've gone over mine in the Forum many times over, and I didn't give you enough to work with in terms of filming a public video.
You did ask the question in the end of the video of what kind of future videos we want to see. Thanks for asking, I have a thought:
One thing I'm finding to be make or break, is that we need to "tap into the conversation already taking place in a potential fan's mind." Esp. when we're writing ad or squeeze page copy. That's huge, and it's always something you say. It's mainly common sense, or just being cool and knowing who your fan is. A lot of us musicians are kind of oblivious to it, and that's funny since we're supposed to be entertainers and trendsetters, so you think we'd know just how to write about our art.
I can only speak for myself, but I think that I just kind of brain fart when I'm on the spot and my mind is filled with the technical computer aspects of setting up the squeeze page or the sales page or whatever. And in terms of a squeeze page, I always forget that the body copy is literally supposed to tell them who you are in the 1st paragraph, what your music sounds like in the second paragraph, and call to action in the last paragraph. Clear outline.
And then to choose the most potent and succinct sentences to choose for a headline, out of the many things you can say about yourself, is a skill that some have naturally, some gain gradually, and some are smart enough to ask others like their fans what they think, before they write.
I know all of this is covered in MMM and in past lessons from the IC, but I was wondering if there could be some kind of hands-on copywriting lesson? I love it when you ask us to submit our pages for review. Maybe you can have us submit like a short essay or a speak pipe message, describing what we think our genre is, how we'd describe our sound, and what kind of people like our music. Then maybe you can take a couple submissions from us, and distill it down for us on video, into one single squeeze page headline for instance. (or sub-headline or body copy, ect.)
Shoot maybe just a headline workshop. Or an "alignment checkup", where you help us write congruent ad copy with squeeze page headline copy. Shoot, maybe an image workshop, where you have us submit some of our images we have and choose the best ones for us that align with our genre, or give suggestions for future images.
Just throwing out ideas and free styling. All this stuff might be really hard to do in lesson format, with so many different kinds of musicians, but I think that marketing is pretty obvious, once you decide who you want to serve and who they really are. It can just be hard at first to get smooth on the computer stuff, and then to get out of your head and just be cool. We just gotta find the right direction to fly in, and get off the ground.
Thanks for your continued help, it's really appreciated
Brian
Thanks Brian. Those kinds of lessons are a bit tricky because - like you said - everyone is so different. But maybe I can come up with something that would work. I can see the need for it. Thanks for planting the seed.
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Totally. That was a long ass post I just wrote. Thanks for reading it and considering, I was really just free-styling without a ton of consideration for that extreme heavy lifting on your part, yet I am aware of the difficulty in considering all the genres. I have an impression that someone of your marketing/musical caliber can probably take most anyone's style and weave good headlines if given a bit more info. to work with, from the artists. I always enjoy your content and without even asking it pretty much always seems to align with my current needs. Thanks for taking the time to do what you do.
Thanks man. That means a lot 🙂
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