In MMM I teach you how to build an automated funnel that is designed to convert cold traffic into music buyers. But the funnel is really only the beginning. Because once you have an audience (aka a mailing list) you can sell things to that audience over and over again for many years to come. In the latest Insider Circle training lesson I will layout a blueprint for long term monetization and discuss the many nuances of a long term marketing strategy.
If you have any questions, comments, or feedback about the lesson please post it below in this thread.
I hope you enjoy the lesson.
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Thanks, John! Fantastic stuff. I had a general idea about these things, but it's wonderful to see it laid out like that. Wonderful, actionable stuff.
Crap. Now I need to do more work...
Thanks Eyvi,
Glad you enjoyed this one 🙂
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Thanks Sam!
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I really liked this video and I wouldn't mind seeing a class on this in the future. One question I have, is that for those of us who are not currently touring, what advice do you have in terms of keeping fans engaged in between the promotions?
Thanks Derrick,
The lesson is applicable whether you tour or not There is a lot of flexibility in terms of how you choose to keep your fans engaged. I typically recommend blogging. But some people hate blogging and prefer making Youtube videos. Some hate videos and would rather release music. You can kind of do anything you want. It has a lot to do with you and your audience. What kind of content would you like to receive if you signed up for an artist's (who was similar to yourself) mailing list?
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John,
For album customers that did not buy the $27 upsell, I want to give customers a second chance to buy the upsell because that's my highest ticket item currently. I'm not planning on doing house concerts or anything like that.
So you say we should create a follow-up funnel in a week or two.
These 3 emails in the follow up funnel can't structured just like the original funnel, mainly because the upsell was the "step-1" page, where it says "wait you're not done, do not close this page you still need to get your download link ( step one of two), so we would need to create a duplicate standalone upsell page without the above "wait you're not done" warning.
Can you please explain how the three emails should be structured to try to get the sale for the $27 upsell?
I think what would make sense is to explain the value of the $27 box set upsell in the three emails of the follow-up funnel, giving background stories, free music, etc.
BUT I'm wondering when to ask for the sale since they've turned us down the first time AND what the spacing between the three emails should be.
In this new funnel, should we create 3 emails once a week sent to private blog posts highlighting the material contained in the upsell with the background stories, free music, etc. WITHOUT asking for any sales at all? (3 week funnel) and on the 4th week, run an LTO for the $27 upsell?
or should we repeat the same exact structure as the original free music funnel (the three emails go to private blog posts, each one with links to buy the $27 upsell while providing value within each blog post?)
one option delays asking for the sale until the end while the other one asks for the sale on each contact.
Is one better than the other and is once a week not often enough or too often?
thank you for clarifying this
Hi Michael,
There is no one right way to do this.
But a potential upsell funnel (for non buyers) might look like this...
Week 1: The Main funnel LTO concludes and after 3 days a tag gets applied to the non buyers, which triggers the new campaign.
7 days later: email 1 on new campaign goes out and send link to free content.
7 days later: email 2 goes out and send link to more free cotent.
7 days later: email 3 goes out, linking to new LTO
1 days later: email 4 goes out linking to LTO
1 day later: email 5 goes out, linking to LTO
3 days later, a new tag gets applied in case you ever want to market specifically to these people.
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I would be more inclined to run a "pay what you want campaign" in a situation like this. If they did not buy the album it is less likely they will by the upsell.
In addition to that, I would create another follow up campaign for the BUYERS, that did not take the upsell. And in that campaign I would push the upsell.
And for that, I would skip the free content and go right into a series of reminders about the uspell.
So you could start the conversation with emails along the lines of "Hopefully by now you've had a chance to listen to the music. I wanted to remind you that the special "for fans only" box set is still available to you at the discount price, as my way of saying thank you for purchasing the album. However, you only have 3 (or 4, or 5) days left to claim the discount.Â
It's all pretty flexible.
In either case, yes you would create a dedicated sales page. The copy would be similar to that on the upsell page, without the "step 1, thank you for ordering" context.
Hope that helps.
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thanks for the thoughtful response John.
for the BUYERS, that did not take the upsell, I'm still thinking that we haven't really given them enough information for them to splurge the $27, so would you consider this?
7 days after they have purchased the album for $9.99 but refused the upsell, we start sending an automated email explaining the story behind the box set.
maybe a couple of days later we send a strong free download from one of the old albums so they can hear how great the box set is.
Then a couple of days later send a video from one of the old albums so that they can see what's in the box set.
Now that they are thoroughly familiar with what's in the box set, we hit them up with a last chance $27 LTO for 72 hours.
reminders each day for three days. final notice and then it's gone.
Do you like that? that would be a total of six additional emails.
Hi Michael,
That's not what I would personally do, but I don't have any particular problem with it.
The reason I would go straight into reminding people to buy the box set, is because the purchase just occurred, and the lead is HOT. So I would not let them cool down.
I perceive the biggest reason that people don't buy the upsell being that they don't know if they will really like the music to begin with. But now that they have the album and have had a day or two, that objection has been dealt with.
If that makes you uncomfortable, then I would recommend trying it your way and seeing how you do. If you are not happy with the results, try it my way. The numbers will guide you.
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wow, that's something I did not consider. The HOTNESS! Thank you
So start the push for the upsell 2 days after their purchase of the album, and run a LTO for 3 days then?
Hi Michael,
I would treat it more like an abandoned cart situation, with a little more heart though.
So essentially, I would run it was a 5 day LTO but perhaps space out the email so emails go out the day after the order, 3 days after the order, and 5 days after the order. And I would write the emails from the perspective of someone following up to see if they have had a chance to listen to the music and get some more of it.
But this is all very flexible, and can be made to fit whatever mold you are comfortable with.
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