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Nailing The Autoresponder: Opinions on the First Draft?
February 7, 2012
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Hey Insiders:

I just finished listening to John's old interview with Chris Rempel (which I found very valuable overall - nice work, John!), and I thought I'd go back through my autoresponder email texts and punch them up according to Chris' advice.

 

Specifically, I'm trying to give the person who's just signed up a real sense of my personality and an idea of what their experience as a subscriber is going to be like. I'm also hoping to get them to feel like they've joined a "tribe" (in the Seth Godin sense), that's constituted of people like them, who they can relate to - and that of course includes the guy who's making the music.

 

Anyway, with that in mind, if anyone has the time to give the text of my first email - the one that delivers the initial download link after the person has submitted their name/address on my squeeze page - a quick once-over, I'd really appreciate hearing your thoughts. Thanks for reading!

 

------------------------------------------- email text below ---------------------------------------------

 

Hi _______:

First things first - thank you so, sooo much for signing up! All you have to do to get your download is click here..

[link]

Still here? Let me tell you a little more about what you've gotten yourself into…

Radio Nowhere is a real band, but at its heart, the band is basically me. My name is Mike Baker, and I write, record and play in sunny (and dangerous!) Oakland, CA. I'm first and foremost a music fan, just like you, who got into this in the first place because I stumbled upon my parents' copy of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band when I was 6 and got freaked out by all the colors on the LP jacket. Freaked out in a good way.

That initial spark of interest turned into a misspent youth…that has stretched into a misspent adulthood devoted to rock'n'roll and all its offshoots (including but not limited to: driving 5 hours to play a show for one (1) paying customer, interviewing Eric Clapton for a guitar magazine, and getting arrested at a Journey concert. Lighters up, people!).

At this point, it's way too late for me to turn around and go straight, so I spend all my time making music. Some of it's just me doing crazy shit in my basement, some of it's playing with great musicians in some of the best clubs in North America. Both are super fun, and, through your great good judgment in joining the list, you have joined an incredibly cool crew of people who are getting occasional emails (not too frequent!) that will keep you up to speed on all of it.

I know that you're sick of the music you hear on the radio on the way to work, American Idol, the b.s. that's always on the top of the charts - hell, every real music fan feels the same way. This is going to be the opposite of that. I'm committed to making nothing but real, honest, passionate music for you…and anyway, if I was capable of selling out, I would've done it a long time ago!

Stay tuned for new singles, interesting demos, backstage videos, live shows and other things that ardent, good-looking, intelligent, and charming music fans like yourself spend way too much of their time trawling the internet for - hand-delivered  to your inbox instead. You're going to dig this the most!

"Radio Nowhere? What the hell is that? We wanted him to be a lawyer" — My Mom

Okay, so she didn't like it. But you just might! Loud guitars, award-winning songwriting, and visits from the devil.

Check it out and pick up a free EP here..

February 7, 2012
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Nice work Mike.  I like it - especially this part: (including but not limited to: driving 5 hours to play a show for one (1) paying customer, interviewing Eric Clapton for a guitar magazine, and getting arrested at a Journey concert. Lighters up, people!).  It sounds like reading your emails will be fun and interesting instead of just the usual boring stuff that most artists send out.  Where do I sign up?

February 7, 2012
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Hey Mike!

 

WOW! It sounds honest, sincere and it is very catchy. I like that. You can certainly write long emails and it will be easy to read for anyone. If someone is not so much of a reader, you'll get around the corner because you are creating interest. Good job!

You got me interested too... How do we find you?

Have a free track now!: Gratitude

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February 7, 2012
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Hey, thanks you guys! I really appreciate your comments, and that you took the time to read the whole thing.

 

My main website is here:

http://radionowhere.net

 

Let me know if you have any comments or questions about whichever page you find yourself on, and thanks again for checking it out!

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February 7, 2012
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I just clicked on your second link. Nice voice!

Can't wait to see the evolution of your mails! Laugh

 

Take care!

Have a free track now!: Gratitude

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February 7, 2012
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Hmmm...guess I'd better get busy writing them, then...Wink

 

Thanks so much for signing up, Isabelle!

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February 7, 2012
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Hey Mike, 

I heard your music, you could actually appreciate mine too... If you feel like it, take a look at my list, you can unsubcribe whenever if that suits you, but it can show you what other people from this forum do with Jonh's squeeze page. I'm not familiar at all with any of this stuff so I pretty much used the squeeze page as it came from John, but I'll learn my way around it. I'm "live" but not pushing it yet, I'm missing money to finish up my website and I don't have a blog yet... Not too sure of how all of this stuff works, but hey, try me, you may like it!Kiss

 

Take care!

 

Isabelle

Have a free track now!: Gratitude

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February 7, 2012
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Hi Mike,

We're neighbors (sort of). I live in Palo Alto. I lived in the east bay for many years before moving here.

Your personality comes across strongly in the email. I think that's great and will either turn people on or off. The email does seem longer than it needs to be  - for me.  I would probably put a condensed version of what you wrote in the email and then link it to a blog post. It's a little much to take in and could have more impact if you got your personality and one or two points across immediately. Then you can also see who clicks on the link for more. But I'm new to all this, so take what I said as only my opinion. 

Also - here's my squeeze page if you want to check out what I do:  http://hobbyhorsemusic.com/

February 8, 2012
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Hey Isabelle - signed up for your list, as you've probably noticed. Groovy stuff - I really like the beat!

 

One thing about the whole process: when I received the email with the download link, it took me a long time to find the actual link; I think it might be more effective down in the middle of your copy, where it would stand out against the white background. YMMV, of course.

"Radio Nowhere? What the hell is that? We wanted him to be a lawyer" — My Mom

Okay, so she didn't like it. But you just might! Loud guitars, award-winning songwriting, and visits from the devil.

Check it out and pick up a free EP here..

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Hi Annie: thanks so much for reading through the whole thing! Palo Alto, huh? I envy you your fogless skies and low homicide rate...

 

I agree with you about the email length, and I'm pretty sure I will actually only put a paragraph or so in the actual email before linking to a blog post or web page with the rest.

 

I've signed up for your list as well, and I thought the whole flow was excellent; clear, engaging, and adding some nice extra flavor through the explanatory text in the email and on the landing page.

 

Nice track, too! I'm getting sort of a "Battle of Evermore" vibe....

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Okay, so she didn't like it. But you just might! Loud guitars, award-winning songwriting, and visits from the devil.

Check it out and pick up a free EP here..

February 10, 2012
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Hi Mike,

I think it's great, well written and will probably get a great response.

But, if I was going to offer any constructive criticism, it might be the first sentence or two...

"Radio Nowhere is a real band, but at its heart, the band is basically me. My name is Mike Baker, and I write, record and play in sunny (and dangerous!) Oakland, CA."

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, and as I said I think it will get a good response, but I suppose what I wanted to see was something that felt a little less "bio" and a little more "story".

The best salesmen just tell you a story and you don't even realize it's a pitch until your signing the papers. When it starts of a bit bio-ish it trips my "this is a self serving letter" censor.

But again, just constructive criticism. Despite what I'm saying I've written plenty of emails that go against what I'm saying.

Good job!

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Hey John:

 

Thanks for reading, and I think I see what you mean about the bio vs. story distinction. How about this instead?

 

——————————————- email text below ———————————————

 

Hi _______:

First things first - thank you so, sooo much for signing up! All you have to do to get your download is click this link...

[link]

Still here? Let me tell you a little more about what you've gotten yourself into…

I know that you're sick of the shallow, cookie-cutter music you hear on the radio on the way to work, American Idol, the b.s. that's always on the top of the charts - hell, every real music fan feels the same way.

I think what we're all interested in is the opposite of that - real musicians writing real songs, committed to making nothing but honest, authentic, passionate music that we can crank in the car on a hot summer road trip, learn all the words to and sing around a campfire, or keep us company in the middle of a quiet night.

Through the great good judgment you've shown in signing up for this here list, you have joined an incredibly cool crew of folks who are getting occasional emails (not too frequent!) that deliver exactly what people like you (and me, to be honest) are looking for.

Stay tuned for new singles, interesting demos, backstage videos, live shows and other choice morsels that ardent, good-looking, intelligent, and charming music fans like yourself spend way too much of their time trawling the internet for - hand-delivered  to your inbox instead.

You're going to dig this the most!

~ Mike from Radio Nowhere

P.S. Want to know more, right now? The Radio Nowhere website has all the 411...

"Radio Nowhere? What the hell is that? We wanted him to be a lawyer" — My Mom

Okay, so she didn't like it. But you just might! Loud guitars, award-winning songwriting, and visits from the devil.

Check it out and pick up a free EP here..

February 12, 2012
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Hi again John, everybody:

 

I've just finished revising the text for my first four autoresponder emails, and I thought I'd post all of them here, just in case someone might find it useful to see how another forum member has done this.

 

Of course, if anyone is moved to comment on the effectiveness of any/all of these emails, I'd be grateful for your input as well. Cool

 

I know that this is a pretty chunky post - tia for checking any of this out!

 

——————————————- First email text below ———————————————

Hi _______:

First things first - thank you so, sooo much for signing up! All you have to do to get your download is click this link...

[link]

Still here? Let me tell you a little more about what you've gotten yourself into…

I know that you're sick of the shallow, cookie-cutter music you hear on the radio on the way to work, American Idol, the b.s. that's always on the top of the charts - hell, every real music fan feels the same way.

I think what we're all interested in is the opposite of that - real musicians writing real songs, committed to making nothing but honest, authentic, passionate music that we can crank in the car on a hot summer road trip, learn all the words to and sing around a campfire, or keep us company in the middle of a quiet night.

Through the great good judgment you've shown in signing up for this here list, you have joined an incredibly cool crew of folks who are getting occasional emails (not too frequent!) that deliver exactly what people like you (and me, to be honest) are looking for.

Stay tuned for new singles, interesting demos, backstage videos, live shows and other choice morsels that ardent, good-looking, intelligent, and charming music fans like yourself spend way too much of their time trawling the internet for - hand-delivered  to your inbox instead.

You're going to dig this the most!

~ Mike from Radio Nowhere

P.S. Want to know more, right now? The Radio Nowhere website has all the 411... [link to site]

——————————————- Second email (5 days later) text below ———————————————

Hi _____ :

Mike from Radio Nowhere here again. I really hope you're enjoying the free songs I sent you a few days ago. If you get a chance to turn 'em up while you're behind the wheel, or out mountain biking or skydiving or something, give it a shot.

Fresh air + good, loud music = good times!

Anyway, I wanted to hook you up with another song that has generated a pretty strong response from listeners. It's a catchy, upbeat track in the classic singer/songwriter tradition called "Sister Rosa", which won an award from the John Lennon Songwriting Contest (I'm not 100% sure that John was one of the judges, but still…).

Though I'm pretty partial to the melody and the lyrics here, I have to admit that the secret weapon in this song is the excellent, ever-so-slightly-totally-out-of-control piano playing contributed by the incomparable Jef Labes, who may be just a shade better known for also being the piano player on Van Morrison's "Moondance".

You can grab it right now by clicking this link (Yes. It's free. Of course.):

[Link to SR]

Now that you're listening to the song, and hopefully humming along a little bit already, let me tell you a little more about it.

"Sister Rosa" was originally part of a demo tape that eventually led to the sessions for my first album in Room B at Fantasy Studios ('Cuz Room A was booked. Carlos Santana, who also kept hogging the best parking spot), but it never actually got recorded until years later…

[Click here to read the rest of the story], and make sure to click the link below to get your bonus free download of "Sister Rosa"!

[Link to SR]

——————————————- Third email (7 days after that) text below ———————————————

Hi ______:

Mike from Radio Nowhere here again. Just wanted to give you a quick update on a brand new development here - the debut of, um, Video Nowhere.

I'll be the first to admit that I've been a little slow in warming to the idea of making videos, being much more interested in the idea of focusing on great music first.

But I have a good friend who's a pretty fair filmmaker, and he came over recently with his iPhone and a bottle of wine and convinced me to bang together a quick video after dinner.

We ended up with a fun little cover of Crowded House's "Fall At Your Feet" - if you'd like to check it out, just click the link below.

[link to video]

Extra bonus: My cousins from Nome and Istanbul showed up to jam along, and they brought some dude who plays piano too…

Thanks for taking a look - hope you dig it! ~ Mike & Radio Nowhere

P.S. If you enjoy the video, how about sharing it with your friends on Facebook, Twitter…wherever? Honestly, that would be a big step towards getting my music into the ears of new fans, and I'd love you for it. More than I already do.

P.P.S. I know orange is really not my color.

——————————————- Fourth email (7 days after that) text below ———————————————

Hi ________:

It's Mike from Radio Nowhere again. I know you've only had a couple of weeks to fall in love with the free songs I've been sending you, and maybe it's a little soon to drop yet another one into the mix, but I'd like to send you a special track that I'm pretty excited about.

It's kind of an unusual cover version of a very well-known song and I'm only sending this secret version of the tune to the coolest people on my mailing list (that would be you).

You can grab it right now at this link:

[Link to Share-to-Download page, modeled after http://johnomusic.net/free-gift.html

Sorry to be so cagey about the name of the track, but the artist I'm covering here employs a massive army of the most ferocious lawyers on the planet, and in their inexhaustible zeal for royalties, they might not appreciate some of the finer nuances of the situation, such as the fact that I'm giving this track away for FREE, and I'd like to avoid being frog-marched off to Sony's private corporate dungeon (I hear the coffee's terrible).

Intrigued? Me too! Let's [click here to read the rest of the story], and don't forget to click the link below to get your bonus free secret download!

[Link to Share-to-Download page, modeled after http://johnomusic.net/free-gift.html

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Hey Mike,

It all looks good and definitely worth testing. I still feel like that while conversational, it could be stronger in terms of story.

In marketing the talk about "pattern interrupts" a lot. The thinking is that we all have a built in resistance to sales messages. When we start hearing the standard introductions we shut down a bit. But if you turn it into a story then their resistance does not come up and they don't realize they are being sold to until they buy. For example, In Dean Field's sig headline he says "DRESSED HIS WIFE UP LIKE A HORSE FOR HIS NEW ALBUM COVER". That is a pattern interrupt and as a hypothetical email subject line it allows you to start off by telling a story that is weird and interesting but which doubles back to what is ultimately a promotional message.

When I start reading your emails the words that jump out in the first sentence of each email is "signing up", "free songs", "debut video", "free songs". When I hit those words I make a decision about what this is all about and it's pretty standard.

Here's an extreme example of an email headline from Amanda Palmer. She is fantastic at blogging and keeping her audience engaged. "tit-free newspapers, masturbating in hotels, meeting richard o'brien + gifting paul kelly". How do you not open and read that. Make that story tie into a promo and you'll have them.

Now, with all of that said, I think you're doing great and what you have will likely work. This stuff I'm talking about is kind of advanced stuff when it comes to copywriting. I just thought it might be helpful or at least interesting. I think you've done a great job.

The one thing I am not seeing though is your pitch? When do you go for the sale? I wouldn't wait to long.

 

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Hey John:

 

Thanks so much for reading all of those emails, and thanks even more for hipping me to pattern interrupts.

I wish I'd known about this before. You know how, when you buy a car, suddenly you notice that every other vehicle on the road seems to be that kind of car, but you just never realized it before?

I kind of feel like every effective marketer I've been following has been running this pattern interrupt program on us, and I just never had a name to put to the concept before. And having a name and a description of the concept really brings into focus the way that it works.

Not to say that I've suddenly mastered the idea, or anything, but would you say that this draft of an email is headed in that direction?

The idea here is that the fan has already signed up for the list and received their free download (and first marketing message), and this is a second autoresponder email that shows up a few days later.

 

——————————————- email text below ———————————————

 

[Email subject line] John Lennon, Van Morrison, Carlos Santana…and Radio Nowhere? What?

 

[Email body]

Okay, okay, I know what you're thinking: "That's some pretty heavy namedropping, mister - you better be able to back it up…."

Here's the deal:

A few years back,  I wrote a catchy, upbeat song in the classic singer/songwriter tradition called "Sister Rosa", based on the true story of a martini and an open mic night with the most beautiful woman in San Francisco....and the devil.

It got a great response at the club gigs I was playing, and one night, a guy from the opening band suggested that I enter it in this competition he was working with…long story short - the song ended up winning an award from the John Lennon Songwriting Contest (I'm not 100% sure that John was one of the judges, but Yoko was reportedly involved…).

I got a faux-vellum certificate of achievement and a thousand bucks, which I spent on beer and two parking tickets.

Though I'm pretty partial to the melody and the lyrics for this song, I have to admit that the secret weapon is the excellent, ever-so-slightly-totally-out-of-control piano playing contributed by the incomparable Jef Labes, who may be just a shade better known for also being the piano player on Van Morrison's "Moondance".

Finally, my original demo recording of "Sister Rosa" was on the tape that eventually led to the sessions for my first album in Room B at Fantasy Studios. Why Room B? Because Room A had been block-booked for like two years by Carlos Santana, who was recording the follow up to his gabillion-selling "Supernatural" LP.

Carlos had also stuffed every cranny of the studio break room refrigerator with macrobiotic Tofurky McNuggets, and kept hogging the best parking spot as well. We joked about sticking strips of bacon under his windshield wipers, but I'm not sure anyone ever did.

So there you have it. I guess it's not like I've exactly got a bunch of rock stars on speed dial, but at least I've got you curious about this song. Right?

Of course you are, and you can download it right now (yes. for free. of course.) by clicking the link below.

[Link to download]

P.S. I was planning on going for the sale with my 5th email.

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I like this version of the email better. Smile

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Cool - thanks, Tim!

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Hi Again, everyone:

 

Hopefully you've got better things to do than stay up to date on someone else's autoresponder series, but just in case you're having a slow day, here's a second email for anyone to comment on as they see fit.

The idea here is that this would be the third autoresponder email that shows up a week after the second. This one invites the fan to check out a YT video, and hopefully share it with friends on FB/Twitter.

Any thoughts, as always, welcome. Thanks!

 

(btw, the last line only makes sense if you've seen the video)

 

——————————————- email text below ———————————————

 

[Email subject line] Talking to Your Heroes While They're Stoned--AND--How to Rock a Fez In the Studio

A couple of day jobs ago, I was a cub reporter for a magazine called Guitar Player. No prizes for guessing what the mag was about. It was awesome. I got paid to work in an office full of musicians, listen to crusty old backstage war stories from older writers during long, not-fully-sober lunches, and meet the occasional shredder who wandered into our thoroughly un-rock’n'roll cube farm of an office.

About three months after I started working there, I talked the editors into running an interview of Neil Finn. Conducted by, omg, me! I was very excited, especially when Neil’s Capitol Records publicist and I hatched a plan for Neil to call me (me!) direct from his house (him!) in the middle of the night, PST, from his house in New Zealand.

When the appointed hour arrived, I was keyed up like a ritalin-addled wolverine, determined to get my first-ever interview off to a good start. I am afraid I did indeed begin by saying how huge a fan I was, and then let slip that I had listened to the new album 37 times (all true). Neil said “whoa”. Ecstasy.

The rest of the interview is lost to history, though I do have a clear memory of Mr. Finn’s answer to my question regarding the source of his inspiration (“Drugs, mostly.”)

Anyway, this is all an extremely long-winded way of explaining that I've always wanted to cover one of Neil's best songs, and when a good friend who's a pretty fair filmmaker came over recently with his iPhone and a bottle of wine I decided that the time had come.

We ended up with a fun little version of Crowded House's "Fall At Your Feet" - if you'd like to check it out, just click the link below.

[link to video]

Extra bonus: My cousins from Nome and Istanbul showed up to help us jam this out, and they brought some dude who plays piano too…

Thanks for taking a look - hope you dig it! ~ Mike & Radio Nowhere

P.S. If you enjoy the video, how about sharing it with your friends on Facebook, Twitter…wherever? Honestly, that would be a big step towards getting my music into the ears of new fans, and I'd love you for it. More than I already do.

P.P.S. I know orange is really not my color.

"Radio Nowhere? What the hell is that? We wanted him to be a lawyer" — My Mom

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Hey Mike,

Originally my first thought was that it's a touch too long, but then I got into your interesting writing style.

Then you called yourself on it being too long and nicely tied it back into your music. 

I think the one thing that is missing is your emphasis on how much of a big fan you are of Neil.  I know it's kind of in the title, but I  think that's why you need to elaborate on your 'Hero' really quick in the beginning, so that when you get to the stuff about your video, it will tie up a little neater.

It sounds weird that we both know it's long, yet here I am, telling you to add something.  🙂

Maybe drop some of the office details, as funny as they are, to speed along to interviewing your hero and into "here's the video we made."

Does that make sense?

All that said, I like your writing style.  It comes across for you.

At the end, where you are directing people to the video, I would suggest maybe dropping the longer PS and keeping the "Orange".  Its curiosity driven.  Nice trigger.

I would also make the words "jam this out" a link to your video.  🙂

Nice job!

-Steve

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Hey, thanks for the substantive critique, Steve - appreciate it!

 

Your points are well taken. Also, I just checked this out in actual email format for the first time, and I think it's definitely a little too long. I'll be cropping verbiage and putting Neil up higher on his pedestal...

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