Hey John,
Another question- this time about my USP. You mentioned in the CR course you thought my USP didn't grab you enough.
This is the one I sent in:
A singer-songwriter with a great voice that tells unique stories.
Or possibly:
A singer-songwriter with a great voice that tells unique stories to enchanting music.
Steve suggested when I started MM that perhaps 'unique' could be part of my USP, which is also what a friend of mine said who is good at getting to the heart of these things. But it sounds like maybe you disagree as perhaps 'unique' is a bit of a truism in the context of talking about a Unique.S.P. so best not to state the obvious?
You asked what was unique about the stories. Looking through, a lot (but not all) of my songs are character sketches ... But I hesitate to use character sketches in the USP as I'd say only 6 out of my 11 songs could be categorised like that. When I was thinking of a name for the album, I came up with Bitter Sweet as I'd say most of my songs are bitter sweet in some way, so perhaps I'm onto something there for the USP...
How about:
A singer-songwriter with a great voice that tells bittersweet stories to folk-tinged music.
A lot of the reviews I've had use the word 'unique' and talk about 'defying categorisation' etc. This is more about the music I think as my songs are both pretty eclectic in style, and also hard to pin down in terms of style, but you could perhaps broadly say they are 'folk-tinged'- that's a very broad categorisation but perhaps that's OK for a USP?
I'd be really interested in any instincts you have based on what I've shared above.
Thanks so much,
Karen
When I say the music is hard to pin down in terms of style, I mean that any given song doesn't have one obvious 'style'- there's a hint of show tune, a hint of folk song, a dash of balkan gypsy music... And the next song is a little bit beatles pop, a little bit folk etc etc.
Hey Karen,
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of words like unique or even bitter sweet. To me saying someone is unique is a little like a writer saying "words can't describe". The job of the writer is to describe. By saying something is unique your making a judgement or declaration but not backing it up by describing HOW it's actually unique. Bitter sweet is a little less ambiguous, but it still forces me to make some assumptions about what you actually mean.
Unique could be in your copy somewhere but I think it needs to also be qualified.
For example, "Beck is a unique folk alternative folk artist" doesn't really say much. Alternative folk is the most specific part of that sentence.
But "Beck is a unique alternative folk artist who combines modern hip hop beats and production with old school song structures and themes" says much more. "Unique" still adds to the sentence, but it's not the crutch of the sentence. Make sense?
"folk tinged" says something. "balkan gypsy music" says a lot more.
Got a live link I can sample? I'm sure I've heard it but with so many artists coming through the inbox each day I can't retain much.
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Hi John,
Thanks so much for living into this with me.
I'm finding this one tricky, I think perhaps because my music is pretty eclectic under the broadest possible umbrella of folk. If only I could simply say 'balkan gypsy music meets Joni Mitchell' or something!
The breadth of my style is something I do sometimes have concerns about in terms of marketing ... But then I think about some of the artists I love and how eclectic they are, and hope that means it's ok for me !?
Here is a secret link to my whole album. . For a taster of the different styles, maybe listen to 'Raised our Glasses', 'This Fear' and 'The Mugger', but the breadth goes beyond those actually.
I so appreciate your thoughts on this.
Thanks,
Karen
Hey again. Just listened to more USP stuff in the copywriting course, (especially the Jewel bit) and felt to mention this part of my life, in case you think it could be relevant? I live on a narrow boat on an island in the Thames, but didn't think it was relevant, as none of my recorded songs on my album are about my boat life, so it felt like a bit too much of a tangent. I used to live in a 1970's style 'commune' of 17 people before we were evicted after a 3 year battle with the landlords and overwhelming public support. I have a song about that on the album, but it's actually not obvious that the song is about that.
I guess perhaps the point is that I've always found ways of surviving as an artist in London- loopholes amidst soaring rent prices that have meant that I still have time for my music. At the moment, I am paying the bills teaching local kids the violin in a hut (pictured) on the island a stone's throw from my boat.
This all might be interesting, but my instinct is that perhaps these things wouldn't quite work as a USP and could feel contrived if I milk them too much as a talking point? My feeling is that with Jewel, the 'she lived in a van!' thing took off organically and I'm not sure I could create that intentionally, but maybe I could, as I do like a challenge with writing ...
My blog post of a lifetime is about delivering actual messages in bottles to labels & managers and a conversationion that ensued after that with a reputable manager that helped me clarify I wanted to 'go my own way' after all. So there's a bit of a trickster/rebellion thing too.
Thanks again for reading- I know this is quite in depth- do let me know if this is more 'consultation' material.
Karen
Obviously the living in a boat thing ties into the nautical theme of my funnel, but then there is the over egging the nautical thing ....
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Thanks
Karen Grace said
Hi John,Thanks so much for living into this with me.
I'm finding this one tricky, I think perhaps because my music is pretty eclectic under the broadest possible umbrella of folk. If only I could simply say 'balkan gypsy music meets Joni Mitchell' or something!
The breadth of my style is something I do sometimes have concerns about in terms of marketing ... But then I think about some of the artists I love and how eclectic they are, and hope that means it's ok for me !?
Here is a secret link to my whole album. . For a taster of the different styles, maybe listen to 'Raised our Glasses', 'This Fear' and 'The Mugger', but the breadth goes beyond those actually.
I so appreciate your thoughts on this.
Thanks,
Karen
No worries. I find that artists often feel the way that you do, in that they see their music is so eclectic that it cant be pinpointed as one particular sound. But to my mind it never seems to take more than about 15 seconds of listening to have a description pop into my head. I thin it's just because it's so meaningful that the artist that they struggle to see beyond the individual components. An artist may ultimately be a dash of Folk, a smidge of Balkan, a peppering of Irish melodies, and a little bit of rock and roll, in the same way that a curry is a few potatoes, some carrots, a bit of cumin, coriander, and some ghee. But to everyone but the chef, it just tastes like curry. Or at the very least, that is the first impression everyone would have. Later on they might break it down into it's components as they reflect.
When I listened to your stuff it immediately struck me as "euro folk", a word I'm making up right now. And if I was going to describe it to someone I would say, "Karen Grace sounds like a sonic mash-up of the soundtrack's to Amalie and Juno". Now, you may very well disagree with that, but that's how it struck me within about 15 seconds. Which I personally think is pretty cool. (I genuinely thought your stuff sounded great.) And while, I can hear lots of different sounds in their, it did not strike me as too eclectic on disconnected at all. It all sounds like the same artist, pulling from the same toolbox, at least to me (and which is a good thing).
The choice of mentioning the soundtracks rather than the specific artists was intentional by the way, because it's half about the music on those soundtracks and half about the way those movies make me feel. I hadn't actually listened to the music from either film in years, until I checked it out before posting this.
In terms of your boat story...
Umm, yeah that's interesting. If you stole my USP (which you are more than welcome to) it would be the perfect foundation for a story to drive home the quirky and extremely artistic qualities of your music and life... it would all tie together. And if you were doing the talk show runs, the first question everyone would ask you is, "so I hear you live on a boat?".
It's not that the boat is the story, but it's the "shortcut to the mind" that paints this picture of a quirky European folk singer who oozes art, and it ties into (and explains) your nautical theme. I don't think it needs to be part of your usp, but it could. Remember, it's just an internal document so it doesn't matter.
I can think of a dozen ways to start off your "blog post of a lifetime" based on that nugget of information...
"It was 4 am on a cold October night when I suddenly realized that my bed was nearly underwater. My first thought was of my guitar".
"Your going to live on a canoe?" my mother asked when I told her what I had done. "Not a canoe, mum", a boat? Although I had to admit, she had a point...
and so on... Now obviously I am eluding to fictitious situations, meant to pull people into a dramatic story (more on that in next week's lessons by the way), but you get my point. Living on one of those boats is a very cool story, that people would tell, and which completely establishes the art/quirk tone that I think your going for.
That help at all?
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Thanks so much for all these thoughts. Interesting you should mention the Amalie soundtrack, as I remember thinking when recording Tired Heart; 'Oh my god, we're channeling Yann Tiersen!'. I love that soundtrack and me and the awesome producer I worked with started channeling it without me having even mentioned Amalie. And listening again to some of my other songs, I realise it wasn't just that song where we were channelling Amalie ... perspective is such an interesting thing! I'm also chuffed you thought my songs sounded great- thanks :).
I really like the idea of my USP being a mash up of two soundtracks, or perhaps artists. I'm not sure I'm entirely sold on Juno being in there- I think it's getting close, and I appreciate you riffing some ideas after 15 seconds of listening. When I think of Juno, I think quirky story and heartwarming folk, so I get where you're coming from. The artist Laura Marling comes to mind again (who is my target audience)- she's a British singer-songwriter you hadn't heard of and you said you looked her up and thought of Portishead which I think is because you must have listened to a recent collaboration she did with another trip-hop artist, but most people think of her as like a modern day Joni Mitchel.
I'm wondering about:
Karen Grace sounds like a sonic mash-up of Laura Marling and the Amalie soundtrack.
Also, d'you think it would work to use that kind of thing as text for ads, as at the moment I'm using a lot of quotes like :
‘A totally original artist who has no need to follow trends or do anything other than be herself’. – Penny Black Music
Thinking about it, even my headlines are probably too generic, and are variations on this theme.
Craving refreshingly different, folk- tinged songs from a unique new singer-songwriter ?
If I used 'Fancy a sonic mashup of Laura Marling and the Amalie soundtrack?' perhaps it would speak more powerfully to my audience? Immediatley it sounds more compelling to me even...
Thanks for all the thoughts re: the boat side of things- really helpful perspective, and your stab at opening lines of a blog made me chuckle :). I'll definitely be pondering all this- currently my two blog posts are my Message in a Bottle story which is already quite a dense story, and then an entertaining story where I name drop who I've worked with, peppering it with nautical puns. I then have another email where I share the music video where I run in to the sea with all my clothes on. The point being that I have so many ideas for what to focus on, and I'm guessing it's not wise for a funnel to be too long ... I think I'm going to perhaps test different approaches and see what works ...
Really enjoying the copywriting course by the way. It's worked really well for me now that I have the technical side of the funnel out the way and have played with various visual design stuff - before there was so much to think about at once, I didn't have much chance to stand back and reflect on my writing. I'm really glad I came to the course having already had a go at writing various bits of copy, as I feel I'm absorbing loads from the course in a way that I wouldn't if I had come to it blank.
Thanks again and looking forward to tuning in soon for the live workshop :).
Karen
Glad to hear you're enjoying the workshop. Thanks.
I think you can modify a USP like that in any way that you want. It's totally an internal document meant to shortcut and "audience-proof" your copywriting.
I can totally appreciate that Juno may not be the right comparison for you and I sort of thought you'd feel that way. But Juno says "quirky story telling" to me, and it sounds like it does to you, and that was really the point.
And yes, your USP is a great basis for ad copy.
My only hesitation with using the Amalie meets Laura Marling thing in an ad is that I don't think there is as much juxtaposition there, and part of what would make the Amalie/Juno thing a nice ad is the juxtaposition.
That said, it doesn't really matter. Try your idea. It will probably work.
I think we are firmly into "way over thinking this" territory. I can hear you thinking "but it's important and I want to get it right". That's true, and valid. But it's time to pick a path and start swinging the machete. If you can't get through that way, go back and start swinging in another direction.
I think you know who you are and what you're doing. I think becoming to precious might be your biggest risk at this point. Your music is good. Your image is good. Your smart. Start telling your stories and drive a small amount of traffic each day towards those stories. Even just $3/day. Whatever it takes. Start getting feedback and see where it goes.
That said, I say this completely aware that you are already doing exactly that it it sounds like it's beginning to work 🙂
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Me overthink?
Yes, thank you, it's my biggest downfall.
Thanks for baring with me thrashing all this out. Yes I've had some sweet moments with responses from people. I only had one sale though, out of 60 people that subscribed (the open rates went down 12% from before, towards the end, so I'm glad to be working on my copy). So I think part of the over-thinking comes from nervousness... But I get it, that I just have to keep trying things.
I have one more cheeky quick question : I'd love to know why you think Juno & Amelie are more of a justaposition than Amelie/Laura Marling? To me the two films are two quirky stories, whereas Laura Marling brings in something with a bit more depth and even darkness at times, which happens in my songs too. Would you be able to respond to that in one sentence?
I also realised that Amelie (and Juno) the film have bigger audiences than all the singer-songwriters that have inspired me, so thanks for that train of thought as there could be a sustainable audience there !...
Thanks for the feedback in the live session last night :).
Karen
No problem at all. I'm a proud overthinker myself 🙂
Keeping in mind that all I know of Laura Marling is about three songs that I have briefly listened to on Youtube as part of this discussion, but my impression of her work is that it's more emotional, cinematic, European, and... hmmm... maybe breathtaking?
Even though Amalie is quirkie, I think it's also all of the above.
Whereas I see the Juno soundtrack as steeping in quirk. The sound of that soundrack is smaller, a bit low-fi, more "sub pop" than European. By comparing Juno and Amalie, you conjure up the more sophisticated, European, and magical feeling of Amalie as well as the more singular, narrative driven alt-folk of the Juno soundtrack. That's my impression anyway. But yes, I also think using the more universally known reference will net you a bigger audience. But I'm sure either could work.
Long story short, I personally feel there are more opposite qualities with Amalie and Juno, than I do with Laura Marling and Amalie. But it's just one guys opinion and doesn't really matter that much because both will probably either work or won't.
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Hi John,
Thanks so much for guiding us all through the Copy Writing course. Super helpful. I'm new in here and haven't yet done MMM. I'll get there, but I knew that learning about writing with these strategies was the best starting point. I also don't use forums much, so not sure if replying to this was the right protocol. Anyway, it's USP related so here I am !
I'm part of a band called The Asthmatix. Ive written several USPs, discussed it with the guys, combined different USPs into one etc. and ultimately all of them are true to our essence and sound, so I'm really here to ask for some feedback to help us nail the branding to create the ads etc..
USP1: A soundtrack to transport you on a dusty and cobble-stoned journey through Eastern Europe, The Balkans and Jerusalem to reignite a beautiful old culture.
USP2: Traditional Jewish melodies brought into the 21st century by 3 soulful beat makers from Australia
USP 3: An instrumental, cultural fusion of multiple influences from klezmer to hip hop, jazz to electronica.
AD TITLES:
1: VIOLIN, VINYL, BEATS & BAGELS.
2: Dr Dre meets Schindler's List. (woah - just thought of that one - heavy)
3: The Avalanches at a Bar Mitzvah. (the Avalanches aren't super famous, but they are cool, sample driven instrumental beats like us, so im trying to find someone or something slightly more popular AND COOL to include in the title and to then mix it with that European, Middle Eastern cultural angle. it's close.!!
NARRATIVE (HERO): Being in the band has taken us as performers to different parts of the globe ... e.g Lithuania to retrace our individual roots, or to residing and recording in post-holocaust Berlin ... and finally we are bringing back our cultural mix (our brand) of music.
PRIVATE LINK TO ALBUM SNIPPET :
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As I havent been through MMM, I'm not sure how much copy or how many blog posts I should be thinking about writing, (we've got stories), however the most meaningful I think is about our cultural roots and visiting these places of our ancestory during the process of making an album. Looking forward to hearing some thoughts from anyone who's reading. Thanks. m
Morphingaz said
Hi John,Thanks so much for guiding us all through the Copy Writing course. Super helpful. I'm new in here and haven't yet done MMM. I'll get there, but I knew that learning about writing with these strategies was the best starting point. I also don't use forums much, so not sure if replying to this was the right protocol. Anyway, it's USP related so here I am !
Hi M, thanks for the kind words about the workshop and welcome to the IC. As a general rule, please start a new top whenever you ask a new or unique question. No worries though, as you mentioned, your new here 🙂
I'm part of a band called The Asthmatix. Ive written several USPs, discussed it with the guys, combined different USPs into one etc. and ultimately all of them are true to our essence and sound, so I'm really here to ask for some feedback to help us nail the branding to create the ads etc..
USP1: A soundtrack to transport you on a dusty and cobble-stoned journey through Eastern Europe, The Balkans and Jerusalem to reignite a beautiful old culture.
USP2: Traditional Jewish melodies brought into the 21st century by 3 soulful beat makers from Australia
USP 3: An instrumental, cultural fusion of multiple influences from klezmer to hip hop, jazz to electronica.
Keep in mind that all I ca really offer is my impression about whether or not your USP is clear. Not being familiar with you or your music I have no idea if it's accurate or not.
I don't care for #1 because it is too subjective and reads like a review rather than a clear description.
I like #2 because the Jewish melodies part is clear but I get a bit fuzzy in the second half because I don't know what the impact of 3 soulful beatmakers from Australia sounds like. Soulful is also very subjective.
I like #3 the best because it tells me you make instrumentals (which is extremely important to know) and it clearly explains the sounds I can expect.
AD TITLES:
1: VIOLIN, VINYL, BEATS & BAGELS.
2: Dr Dre meets Schindler's List. (woah - just thought of that one - heavy)
3: The Avalanches at a Bar Mitzvah. (the Avalanches aren't super famous, but they are cool, sample driven instrumental beats like us, so im trying to find someone or something slightly more popular AND COOL to include in the title and to then mix it with that European, Middle Eastern cultural angle. it's close.!!
My impression is that none of these are necessarily slam dunks because they are more quick summary descriptions than lines that pull me in to the experience. That said, I could totally be wrong. The split testing exercise in the course will be helpful here. You can just test each of those and see what happens.
NARRATIVE (HERO): Being in the band has taken us as performers to different parts of the globe ... e.g Lithuania to retrace our individual roots, or to residing and recording in post-holocaust Berlin ... and finally we are bringing back our cultural mix (our brand) of music.
This could work. I think it just depends how it plays out in the stories you tell. The question from the fans point of view is always "why should I care?". If you can sufficiently address that with your narrative then it will work. If their is a post holocaust message to the band/music then that might be more powerful than retracing your roots. Just a thought.
PRIVATE LINK TO ALBUM SNIPPET :
>>>>
As I havent been through MMM, I'm not sure how much copy or how many blog posts I should be thinking about writing, (we've got stories), however the most meaningful I think is about our cultural roots and visiting these places of our ancestory during the process of making an album. Looking forward to hearing some thoughts from anyone who's reading. Thanks. m
The super short version of what I recommend is a funnel that contains about 6 emails.
1. Deliver the free track.
2. Establish the narrative with a blog post.
3. Get fans more acquainted with the music with a blog post and video.
4. Make limited time offer.
5. Remind subs about offer.
6 Final offer for offer.
The above will make much more sense in the context of the course but that's a basic breakdown.
Hopefully all of the above helps.
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