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October 18, 2016
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Hey John,

Just sharing a new song and a quick video I made for it yesterday. I haven't run ads for it, shared it with my profile or promoted it in any way, I simply posted it to my music FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/brian.....585127325/

It kinda reminds of Tracy Chapman actually, just the really "songwritery", wordy quality it has. But of course maybe my dreadlocks are inspiring that comparison a little - What do you think?

Also, what if I wanted to run a cheap video view ad to a couple different audiences? The same video would be amassing views from different types of fans - could that hurt? I guess that could conceivably help my cause if my intention is simply to create a custom audience of people who have watched 25% of the same video. What are your thoughts?

October 19, 2016
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It's cool man. I wouldn't have thought of Tracy Chapman on my own, but I can kind of see that now that you say it. It's sort of Tracy Chapmen, Jack Johnson, Jazz fusion, and a dash of Les Claypool all blended together.

I think that mixing up a bunch of targeting options actually makes a lot of sense in this case, where you are just trying to isolate a custom audience. In fact, the more the better. Only in this case specifically. Not on a normal ad. Good thinking. Otherwise the audience may be too heavily favored by the original targeting.

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October 19, 2016
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Thank you for your feedback on the song man, I appreciate it! I went ahead and made a video view ad, couple ?'s

*1. should put a bunch of different targeting options in the same audience when I'm choosing the targeting for one video view ad?  I think that's what you're saying, but just clarifying.

BTW I went ahead and included Tracy Chapman, Jack Johnson, Dave Matthews, Prince EA *for the positive message appreciating crowd, which I will target more and more*, and India Arie because a couple people who don't know each other both told me that song reminded them of her... I ended up with an audience of like 5,000,000 which looking back I think is too big, but for video views I'm not sure if the criteria is different sense I bunched together a bunch of artists?

*2. I made a new ad from scratch when I probably should have "boosted" the existing post of the video on my page?

*3. Should I add a website URL, link description, learn more button and a pixel to video view ads?

-BTW I left all that out because I think FB was being buggy when I tried to add the website URL because it didn't show up in the example. I was tired so I just said screw it and left all those bells and whistles out for now - There will be more chances to get it right)

Thanks John!

October 20, 2016
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Brian Rogers said
Thank you for your feedback on the song man, I appreciate it! I went ahead and made a video view ad, couple ?'s

*1. should put a bunch of different targeting options in the same audience when I'm choosing the targeting for one video view ad?  I think that's what you're saying, but just clarifying.

I don't have any hard advice here because I haven't messed with mixing the audiences up all that much yet. But it makes sense to me so that you don't end up just creating a lookalike audience of your initial target audience. But yeah, to do this you would create one adset and group multiple interests into that ad set. For anyone new here, I don't normally group multiple interests. This approach is unique to this strategy. On the other hand, if you knew you had a winning audience, based on past experience, you could target that audience, knowing that you'd be refining even further based on viewer activity. So there are a couple of different ways you could approach this. 

BTW I went ahead and included Tracy Chapman, Jack Johnson, Dave Matthews, Prince EA *for the positive message appreciating crowd, which I will target more and more*, and India Arie because a couple people who don't know each other both told me that song reminded them of her... I ended up with an audience of like 5,000,000 which looking back I think is too big, but for video views I'm not sure if the criteria is different sense I bunched together a bunch of artists?

It's a bit big. May not matter for this, but it might. You might try excluding people, or narrowing things down by adding some kind of demographic info.

*2. I made a new ad from scratch when I probably should have "boosted" the existing post of the video on my page?

I don't think it matters here. I probably would have boosted just because it;s easier. But it's the views that count. Not the ad type. 

*3. Should I add a website URL, link description, learn more button and a pixel to video view ads?

I would. Drive some traffic to your squeeze page while you're at it. It will help mitigate costs of the experiment.

-BTW I left all that out because I think FB was being buggy when I tried to add the website URL because it didn't show up in the example. I was tired so I just said screw it and left all those bells and whistles out for now - There will be more chances to get it right)

Thanks John!  

Sounds good Brian. Keep us posted.

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November 10, 2016
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Hey John,

Hope you're well man. So I want to get some views on a recent video and create a custom audience from the folks who watched 25%.  I already posted the vid to my page - Will you please give me a quick refresher on how to "boost" that post with FB ads, instead of making a brand new ad for the video from scratch? I want to boost it in an ad targeting a handful of artists. Thanks!

November 10, 2016
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Hey Brian,

I have never run a video ad by simply boosting it. I always do it from the ad manager. You first need to create the custom audience of people who have wathced 25% of a previous video. Then you would go into your ad manager and create a new ad. But you would select video views as the objective. Then go through the usual steps of creating an ad, however when you get to the actual ad creation you select "use existing post" from the tabs. Then you can use your original post with the video in it.

I'm sure you can just boost it. But it depends a bit on your targeting options. The options are limited a bit when you do a simple boots. But if you have everything you need then no problem.

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I recently did a remake of the disco song "I Love The Nightlife" (Disco Round)

I have a full version with an instrumental sax opening which runs 6 minutes and I have a radio edit version which runs

about 3:50 minutes. I know a lot of people don't have patience for longer songs so I did the radio edit and have my video for each version. My question is which version do you think is the best to promote? the original full length version or the radio edit?

youtube links are below for each version:

radio edit version

Full version

December 3, 2016
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Hey John,

I personally think that the rules that apply to radio also apply to promoting yourself online. All of the variables are still the same, it's just the delivery medium that is different. Short attention spans are still short attention spans. If you wanted to use the long version for artistic reasons you could also include that in the download package and just explain the different tracks to the fan. Might make it a slightely cooler offer, and start a bit of a dialogue about your music. Just one guy's opinion.

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December 5, 2016
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Thanks John! It seems to make more sense promoting the shorter version. What I'm finding is average watch time for music videos seems to be about 1:30-2 minutes max, maybe I'm wrong since it's based on my own stuff maybe people are getting longer views.

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An average view time of 1:30 is pretty great from what I've seen. But yeah, it depends on the audience. I think you're smart to go with the sorter video. Let us know how it goes.

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February 16, 2017
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Hi John, its ironic you guys were talking about shorter vs. longer videos above because that's what I'm sharing right now. I'm just about done with a music video that we're pretty happy with. I was hoping you could check it out and tell me which one hits you better in terms of intro, what video may hold their attention longer, and what to your eyes clearer communicates my "message" as an artist.

Its the same video but I made two different versions of it, one that starts half way through the song and one that starts at the beginning. The beginning may be better for a songwriter audience (maybe) because it shows the full lyrical arch of the song, while the edited version comes in with a bang and has a lot of cool bass stuff at the very top which might grab and hold a bass guitar loving audience's attention better - also its a little shorter which could possibly be better for FB ads in terms of view stats. I honestly don't know and need some fresh eyes and a professional opion. So here goes, these are both unlisted YouTube versions below, intended for the IC only. 

Disclaimer: they were both really crisp and hi-fi in Final Cut and as mp4s, but as soon as I uploaded to YouTube it got a bit blurrier. I'll have to look into that, but for now:

 

Long Version of "On This Foggy Night"

 

Short version of "On This Foggy Night"

 

Thanks for any feedback you have on which one is "better" or possible targeting strategy advice or whatever!

February 17, 2017
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That's a tough one. I personally like the longer one because the gradual build is more cinematic to me. But the marketer in me thinks there is a good chance the shorter one might  yield better results simply because direct and to the point usually does. What I would probably do is run some Facebook video view ads to each one (in different ad sets so they don't compete) but with the exact same ad copy and targeting and see which one gets you more clicks and a higher average view time. Then lead with that. Great job on the video.

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That's exactly what I thought. Its like, what songwriter wants to cut their song in half, but at the same time I was thankful to have such a clean editing point that showcases my strengths right off the bat. But like you said, sometimes a suspenseful build keeps people's attention too, so there's only one way to find out and that's to split test.

Thats a solid approach you mentioned, would you run those for like 24 hours and spend 5 bucks on each ad set?

Thanks John, we had fun making it!

February 19, 2017
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I don't really have a specific budget that I'd recommend. I guess you could start with $5 and see what the stats look like. If there is no clear cut winner then I would maybe run them a little longer. Just make sure you have a call to action in the ad and use it like you would in your real campaign, simply because views are not the only thing that matters. Clicks are as well, and views don't necessarily correlate to actions. 

Let us know which one does better.

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Right on man, thank you and will do.

On a side note, I emailed Raul Midon through his site to simply say "you're great, who influenced you?", and he actually hit me back. I haven't replied yet, but I was going to give him an mp3 of my own music to check out. Is that cheesy? I guess it would be cool to just be in touch and let him know I'm a serious musician somehow. What are you thoughts?

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Awesome. Totally go for it. You have nothing to lose. You don't want to ever bombard someone or take advantage, but when the universe opens a door, it usually pays to walk through. I'd send him the link to the longer video you just sent me. You never know.

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Done and done, thanks for your encouragement!

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One thing I forgot to mention on both the Coaching Call today and on the last IC Coaching Call is this - Congratulations on Janiva's GRAMMY Nomination! Thats huge man, huge.  Freaggin MMM AIDA Funnel, incredible. Cool

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Thanks man. Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about that. Really goes to show.

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