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keyword research: leave out the the
July 13, 2011
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I discovered that when researching keywords based on a band's name that begins with "the", i.e. The Yardbirds, omitting the "The" from the band name can give much better results.  For instance when I put "the yardbirds songs" in the keyword tool I get back 42 global monthly searches which isn't pretty, and then taking it a step further when I google "The Yardbirds songs" it shows more than 15,000 results.  That's a lot of competition for a phrase nobody searches for. 

But…

When I take out 'The' and just use the keywords "yardbirds songs" the tool shows 480 global monthly searches and interestingly when I google "Yardbirds songs" the results drops to just over 6400.  That's a lot more attractive.  And it made a lot of sense when I thought about it.  When I'm looking for information I usually just type in the most relevant words.  Clearly what you leave out can be as important as what you include.

 

I was a little confused about the change in the number of results, but I think I sorted that part out.  Luckily logical thought isn't necessary for writing songs. Cool

July 14, 2011
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Hey Daniel,

  I found the same to be true on almost any type of internet search. I have a gig coming up where they want me to run my gear on a generator. From past experience, a definite red flag for me! I googled several long questions, and got back many results that told me nothing that I was looking for. When I shortened my search words to the bare minimum, I got back some very good and informative answers. Bottom line....I'm going to do the gig, but with a very stripped down system, and my rider has some very specific requirements! Probably saved me a shit load of $$$$$$ from burned up gear! 

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July 14, 2011
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Yeah Daniel, you can actually become a google expert just by taking note of that stuff.

This is something I still struggle with because I'm a bit wordy at times, but I've learned to take the "Homer Simpson" approach to just about everything marketing related.

What I do is right before I do a ton of work that I have to undo later, I stop and think, "would this make sense to Homer Simpson?"  or "How would Homer Simpson search for this?"

What it does is put you right there in the ring with the common man.  The big distinction is that everyone in this forum will be equipped with marketing Ninjitsu to cash in on Homer.

-Steve

July 14, 2011
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Nice Greg, I hope the gig goes well.

Steve - the Homer Simpson approach... I like that!

So check this out. The keyword phrase "the new yardbirds" gets around 600 gms. Guess what the #1 search result is... A messed up looking page of garbage with 6 inlinks. Granted I'm pretty new at this, but that looks to me like 600 searches a month asking for a new home.

I'm now trying to think of the best/simplest way to steal that #1 rank, and then an effective way to convince people looking for "the new yardbirds" (aka earliest led zeppelin) to check my band and get on my list. I have some ideas for the second part. But, I'm not quite sure of the mechanics required for the first part.

Any brainstorms or concerns? Do let me know if I'm missing a critical flaw my logic.

July 14, 2011
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The first part is a simple, cut & dry SEO approach.  I'm talking about on page factors as well as off page.

It may be tough to secure a top ranking because the 1st result is a pretty comprehensive (though uncited) account of the "new yardbirds" brief existence which eventually became Led Zep.  The 2nd is wikipedia for the actual Yardbirds (which does have citations)

You may not get a top ranking, but you could make top 3 or 4.

Here's a wild idea (and an untested one), but you may be able to take a shortcut here…

It looks like these rankings were achieved (at least in the 3rd result's case) simply by what is known as LSI (Latent Semantic Indexing) which is google's way of giving authority to words and phrases that seemed to be linked contextually (ie.  Jimmy Page… obviously a member of both bands and therefore semantically linked).

What you could do is simply reverse engineer the ranking strategy.  This would mean, comparisons to not only the sound of your band to both Led Zep and The Yardbirds, but also each individual member's channeling of the actual members of the Yardbirds ("so so and so's guitar work is cut from a Jimmy Page ala the Yardbirds styling")

Basically, use all of the semantic referencing to construct an article that is relevant to things that seems like they would naturally rank for Yardbirds related shit.

For on page factors that should use keywords…

  1. The title of the article
  2. The meta title of the webpage itself
  3. meta keywords
  4. all img alt tags for your images
  5. the url (if you're not using a blog format it should be something like lovelysavages.com/the_new_yardbirds.html
  6. headings (h1 h2 tags and whatnot)
    For the off page factors
    1. Create a video to direct traffic back to the web page
    2. syndicate the article through EZA and link back to the original web page in the author's box
    3. submit the original to Digg.com in the music category
    4. Submit the url to pingler.com
    5. bookmark it yourself using delicious.com or any social bookmarking site

    Here's the kicker though…

    Offer something to your list for free if they will take a moment to bookmark the page in delicious under the tag "The New Yardbirds".  Make them an ethical bribe.

    Like I alluded to, you may not get a top ranking (3 million competing sites and about 1,000 competing videos), but bribing your fans/friends to bookmark the page for you may cut through some of poorly or inappropriately ranked sites.

    Keep in mind though, people searching for the New Yardbirds are looking for just that.  However you will get some sign-ups from the true music lovers assuming they can find your page.  The things I outlined above will work if you can successfully reconstruct a semantically relevant webpage.

    Good luck,

    -Steve

    EDIT:   I forgot one more thing… after you get the page up, go through your website and any reference to either the Yardbirds or even better… the New Yardbirds, should be made into a link to your new yardbirds page.

    ANOTHER EDIT:  I just thought of it (because it's shiny and *NEW)... after you achieve a ranking, make another ethical bribe to your list if they will click the google "1 up" button for you.

July 14, 2011
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Awesome!  Thanks for that Steve.  

 

It seems like that page is basically just a weirdly formatted squeeze page.  All of the links go to a LZ reunion blog that has one entry newer than 2009.  I'm going to use the project as an experiment to see what is possible.  I'm guessing it'll take a couple of months, but I bet it can be done.

 

Its funny.  I actually enjoy geeking out on this stuff quite a bit.

July 16, 2011
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Hey Daniel, I know what you mean about "enjoying geeking out on this stuff". I'm absolutely obsessed with it and I can remember the power I realized I had when I first started messing with this stuff. But man, I must be boring to talk to at parties these days 🙂

There are a number of ways you could take a ranking for a search engine term like that. For the short term I would create a simple ezine article, blogger blog, squidoo, or some other free service and link the content to your squeeze page.

But for the long term you could try to create your own music authority site and then essentially advertise yourself with a big unavoidable ad in the right side bar (like my MMM blog), as well as links in the content. You would then approach it like Steve laid out. You'd write keyword rich articles and then build links back to those pages with keyword relevant anchor text. It's simple, but it's involved. What would you think about a lesson on this for next months training module? Blogging for musicians so to speak.

To show you an easy way to get some ideas for the LSI that Steve is talking about. Here is a screen shot using Google's "related searches" option. Click the icon to view.

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You can find the related searches option in the left sidebar if you scroll down a bit. Then at the top you will see all kinds of terms that Google sees as relevant. By including as many of these terms as you can NATURALLY in your article you will be telling google your content is very relevant to the subject at hand, and you will also be increasing your chances of getting a lot of long tail traffic.

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July 16, 2011
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Yeah, I've definitely watched my wife's eyes to glase over as I was telling her about this stuff.

I like these approaches you guys have lined out. Especially the idea of having both a short term and long term plan. I'm going to start laying the ground work and then get serious once I've finish up the "video on the cheap" project.

And yes! I would love to see a 'blogging for musicians' module! I have my music blog Project Rock & Roll that's about DIY and often feels more like an exercise in reinventing the wheel. And I'm really interested in learning more about using blogs the way you guys are talking about above where it's serving a specific goal rather than being a microphone for ones passion.

Last but definitely not least, thanks for pointing out the related search thing! I don't think ive ever noticed that before - which is crazy given that I use google every freekin day.

July 16, 2011
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I am definitely up for a "blogging for musicians" because I feel need to get this started as far as keeping new content coming out and being able to link back to my articles press releases etc.  I feel it will be a big factor in driving traffic to the squeeze page and raising my band profile online.

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