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Squeeze page tweak feedback wanted, thanks!
March 11, 2016
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Hey all, 

I've been running a new kind of campaign for the last week or so. My ad has got a relavence score of 9 and I've been tweaking things one at a time on a nightly basis (so if you go to my site a week from now it'll probably be a whole different story), with some progress, but I thought I'd run it past you here because... can't see the forest for the trees and all that.

I've managed to get the conversions up from an initial 5% to about 10% but no higher

Here's the page: http://thomastruaxmusic.com/

I'm targeting a very specific audience for this. (Most of my campaigns are based around my live act with my self-made instruments and I've had a lot of success with that but I want to expand beyond the locations in which I'm touring and the only way to do that I think is to make the music itself the main subject).  Some magic happened when I changed my targeting from Bauhaus which was probably too large a net to Tones On Tail, which was a Bauhaus spin-off band that only the hardcore fans would know about.  When I initially did that I was getting conversions for $1.30 or so and thought I had it made but it's gone back up since. Could be I've taken it to too small a net.  Haven't had much luck yet targeting Wire fans, much more expensive it seems...

Changes I've made so far:
I've changed the button away from the yellow graphic and the arrow to be a bit more subtle, (I think this particular audience might be allergic to bright colorsCool), this seemed to help things.

Tried several headline alterations, improved things somewhat.
The most effective thing I've done is to add in the line 'Bauhaus for Breakfast, wire for lunch' which is also part of the most successful FB ad, into the text towards the top of the squeeze page.

The things towards the bottom I'm more unsure of, let me know if anything strikes?

Any input much appreciated!

Thanks,

Thomas

March 15, 2016
9:31 pm
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Please take anything I have to say with a grain of salt... I am very green with this copy thing but I would like to put my oar in before someone who is actually knowledgeable steps in so I can compare my thoughts with theirs and see if I am going in the right direction myself...

I have a feeling that we share an unusual quality among musicians. I am very analytical and sometimes get so focused on the details that I loose site of the picture.

If I may, your landing page looks tedious to me. my eyes were bouncing around looking for something (probably something easier to assimilate). If I understand Johns approach, we should attract the reader to the top of the page with a short bold statement and keep the rest very visually simple as well. 

I thought the lower half of the page makes sense but you might consider simplifying the heading and/or moving it from the top of the page down and replacing it with a call to action combined with a short statement that you really are that good (keeping it short and easy to read)...

All technical stuff aside, look at your page like a piece of word art. don't look at what it says so much but look at how well laid out it is. What it says is important but the aesthetics are perhaps more important. I think that will make it easier to follow. create a visual flow...

I am trying to overcome a bad habit of trying to vomit out too much information in a statement that should be very short and simple. I think your opening statement might be suffering a similar condition.I read once that if a word has more than 2 syllables, it is too hard to read. I think the heading follows this rule and any other that reduces the readers effort. We are lazy readers after all. 

I hope this helps and look forward to hearing from someone who can actually answer your question with authority. in the mean time, feel free to visit my page and offer any thoughts you may have. I too could use some input. don't worry about my feelings. I lost my pride a long time ago Laugh

http://www.aaronstokesmusic.com

March 16, 2016
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Aaron, thank you very much for the reply, I think you may be on to something helpful here, maybe a less-is-more approach. And yep, I do tend to try and over analyze it too much and cram too much in.  I like the way your own page flows a bit more smoothly.  Has it been working for you? I look forward to hearing what John and others with a little more expertise have to say - seems a bit quiet around here the last few days.

Thanks again,

Thomas

March 16, 2016
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I haven't paid for any advertising for this page yet. I have had mixed successes with earlier versions... the worst converter for me was this following page.. .06 conversions if I remember. less than 1%!! you can see it here:

prytaneum.net

I went back through john's mmm courses and overhauled my page to his much simpler format. the man has put forward the time and research... funny how far I strayed from the concept. I was too busy looking through a microscope and lost sight of the page as a whole. 

what is interesting is that my first try with prytaneum.net was converting almost 20%. it looked a lot like my aaronstokesmusic.com page with different images and different title copy in the heading. I thought it was a little cheesy and was sure I could improve it. another reason for changing the original one was that I was getting a very poor click through rate from Facebook and the traffic was outrageously expensive. 

in hind site, I think the biggest problem was not the squeeze page but the targeted audience or more likely, the images and copy I was using. I was experimenting with paying per click as well so that was another variable.

It all seems so obvious to me now. I was barking up the wrong trees in the wrong order. I should have tweaked the facebook ads first and then improved my squeeze page. at least that is the conclusion I have drawn so far...

-an interesting note-  while I have not begun any paid or free advertising campaigns for my aaronstokesmusic.com squeeze page, I did get a conversion from Germany..... I don't know how the subscriber found it. that puts my conversion rate at 100%....... I will take that as a genuine, bonified, inconceivable act of god but a good sign. We shall see how the numbers play out in a real situation soon. now, If this German subscriber buys a cd in a couple days, I am going to buy a ticket to Newzeland and give John a big kiss! Laugh but john probably shouldn't worry.... the statistics are still on his side

March 16, 2016
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Hey guys, really sorry to be a bit quite this last week or so. I've had a crazy run of stuff all hitting my plate at once. I am working two albums right now for Blue Elan Records and one came out this week while a second one started the pre-launch. On top of that I had a show of my own last week, and required travel. Back in the saddle now...

Thomas: I think your page visually looks really nice, and I think you've done a great job of taking your target audiences perspective into consideration and laying out a page that will be attractive to them on a visual level. I like the look of it, and the more subtle colors. Not positive they will convert better yet, but I like that you've added your own branding while holding on to the core principles.

My issue with your page is that it's hard to follow the flow. At least for me. I had to read your headline three times to understand what you were saying. You also included quotes with varying text formats, and in a way that was hard to discern the quotes from the copy, so I wasn't sure who was talking as I read. There is also very little copy that is not a quote. So while you might be addressing the need for social proof, you are not doing any hand holding with your more instructional copy.

You mention a lot of song titles, that are also fairly conversational phrases. I (the reader) do not know your songs so I get instantly lost and have no idea what I'm reading. The headline sounds cryptic until I suddenly realize it's a song title, and then again realize that it's a quote. So there is a lot of complicated mental stuff happening while I read. And even now, there are quite a few bits that I don't understand or catch what you are referencing. What IS working is the visual and branding. The pic communicates  lot and so does the subtle tweaks you've added to the arrow, background, button, and image frame. Sort of a "White Heat" heroin kind of feel.

It might be a helpful exercise (and I'm totally serious) to create a new page, but imagine it is for seven year old kids, that just happen to like the Bauhaus, or whoever you are targeting. Make it everything painfully clear. Once you have it to a place where a seven year old can understand it then you can dress it back up with language and vibe for your real audience. Again, just an exercise. But you might be surprised how much of it you keep in your final.

I think the page needs to be broken up into very clear sections that speak directly to the interests of the audience you are after, tell them what they will get, and tell them what to do.

So just to go over the different elements...

The headline's job is to instantly make a bold claim or promise about what you are offering. For us this usually means promising a particular experience that your music offers, while aligning yourself with the reader by touching on key passions, interests, or tribe identifiers.

The subheadline spells out the specifics of what they get. IE a free download.

The image should reinforce that you are consistent with who you claim to be. That you are cool, attractive... a rock star.

The quotes create social proof to overcome any doubt that you are who you say you are.

Then you need supporting copy. This is where you sort of take a breath and start over. You are making your elevator pitch above, now you back up and explain the elevator pitch in a little more detail. I usually go with a paragraph that explains who you are, tone that explains what the music is like, one that explains what they are going to get, and one that tells them what to do next.

And break everything down into chunks that are easy to navigate on the page. I think this is the point that Aaron was trying to make as well.

Right now your page appears to be made up of 90% quotes. There is no conversation. Just jabs of info.

All of this is not to say that you can't go off script. But I would start by making a more straight forward approach work and then playing with things.

I hope none of that comes off as critical. And it;s just one person's opinion. I actually feel pretty good about what you have. The page looks really nice. The fact that it's converting at all makes me think you will do really well once you get some clarity onto the page.

And as an aside, it's normal to see an ad start off as profitable and then go up. That just means that you're ad has peaked and you need to start a new one. This is part of every campaign. I am always cycling between ad sets. Each one lasts from just days to weeks. But never much longer.

Aaron: Thanks for weighing in. Let me know if I should be on the look out for a musician on my doorstep with Chapstick in his hand and a crazed look in his eye 🙂

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March 17, 2016
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Thanks so much for the help!Laugh

March 17, 2016
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That's what I'm here for 🙂

But just to clarify, that feedback was in relation to Thomas' initial post. I just realized that you posted your link as well. Didn't want to cause any confusion.

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March 17, 2016
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Hi John (and hi again Aaron),

All of what you've said makes perfect sense, really appreciate the input and will work on overhauling it.

I've got a lot of good press to draw from thus the 90% quotes (it's that old oft-quoted saying: "I don't know what I'm doing until the critics explain it to me") and I think I've leaned to heavily on/ worked too hard on trying to manipulate those into telling the story rather than just using them as proof, as you described.

Like Aaron pointed out, too busy looking at the details, getting lost in those and losing sight of the larger picture.

Will get to work on it and hopefully come back with some improved results.

Again, thanks so much for taking the time to get into it with me, I really appreciate it!

Best,

Thomas

March 21, 2016
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No problem. Happy to help. You seem to have a good product and a handle on how to present yourself in a slick/attractive way. A few tweaks and I think you'll be on your way. I have zero doubt that this can be turned around. Keep us posted.

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